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THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks. http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/press/pdfs/n1746_american_association_of_police_officers.pdf

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project. http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12576824#

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear. http://blogs.tampabay.com/bizarre/2010/05/workplace-brawl-costs-coworker-a-tooth.html (one fundraiser for Officer Down Foundation beat up another fundraiser right in the call center a few weeks ago. Type his name in here and see what you get. https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=51&data=57608f8ddc597f1f978bd1ca0550fc96 Here is a link to the Sheriff of Pasco county, call him up and ask him to protect you from this group trying to scam you in the name of fallen officers http://www.pascosheriff.com/webapps/psofbdt.pgm
Check out the House of David Deirks, is your house that big? http://maps.google.com/maps?li=rwp&q=67+Rusty+Ln,+Mammoth+Lakes,+CA+93546
Check out page 5 of the book describing the “Police Protective Fund” it’s the exact same program as that of the Officer Down Foundation. How do you suppose that Officer Down Foundation wound up with the exact same program run by the exact same guy as The Police Protective Fund? They must have bought from the Police Protective Fund since it is a program and an asset of the Police Protective Fund. Whether it is a good program or not it still belongs to the people who donated to the Police Protective Fund which paid to develop and implement it. It is an asset that has mysteriously been transferred to another non profit, The Officer Down Foundation.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN"S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you. revjames@pfcl.org www.badgefraud.org

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


We stand on the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
This phone number is calling to do fund raising for the Fire Fighters Charitable Foundation. I have called the number. It directs you to a customer service department that can answer questions, help you donate, or anything else related to the foundation. Also, there’s information on www.ffcf.org, you can contact them there with any questions or requests.
This Foundation is doing a lot of really great things for Fire Fighters nationwide and the people that call are trying to help them raise money so they can do even more good. The foundation helps with funding for volunteer fire departments, toward first aid and fire prevention education as well as other outreach programs.
snow
 Mar 31st, 2010
also on the do not call list
rob
 Mar 12th, 2010
Asking for a handout for firefighters, got my wifes name and number from careerbuilder.com from her resume. I donate locally....sorry charlie./
Rob
 Mar 12th, 2010
phone nr 215 383 5595 caller Id FFCF did not leave msg.
I AM ON A NO CALL LIST BUT STILL KEEP GETTING JUNK CALLS....LET IT RING LET IT RING......
Rich
 Mar 11th, 2010
FireFighters Charitable Foundation does not have a very good rating (ZERO stars out of 4) on CharityNavigator.org. If I'm reading this correctly it says they spend 83% of their income on fundraising. Only 11% goes to the programs they offer and another 5.7% goes to administrative expensives. That's terrible. Compare them to the American Red Cross (or your local zoo for that matter), when it comes to how the money taken in is being spent. What's the point of spending nearly all the money taken in on fundraising? Who is getting the benefit of the fundraising?

I think I'll just give my money to my LOCAL volunteer firefighters.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3698
Ivor
 Mar 10th, 2010
They called on my home business line and asked to speak with the "lady of the house". When I said they had reached a business line they got flustered and hung up.
Carol
 Mar 08th, 2010
Rec'd 5 calls in the last three days from this number - they never leave a msg. Caller ID now listed as "Wells Fargo".
porquerynde
 Feb 26th, 2010
I don't believe in charities and never give to charity. That just generates more people looking for handouts. And Fran. They are not a scam. They are a charitable foundation!!! But I still won't give. Legit or not --I don't give away my hard earned money.
judy
 Feb 24th, 2010
Called at 5:30 this evening. Caller ID said FFCF--total scam. They asked for the "Lady of the House" and I hung up.

And HELLO harry--They are not a charity, they are a SCAM! So they are not exempt from ANY DNC list! Report them!!!

We have also begun getting bogus "Police Charity" calls again. I thought these scammers gave up long ago...
Fran
 Feb 22nd, 2010
Firefighters Charitable Foundation, based in Farmingdale (Long Island) New York, and listing someone named Frank Tepedino as the CEO. The charity-rating-and-monitoring site charitynavigator.org lists FFCF and gives the Foundation ZERO STARS [none] out a possible four stars. Beware.
crankyguy
 Feb 22nd, 2010
they are the fire fighters charitable foundation i think since they are a charity they are exempt from dnc list
harry
 Feb 19th, 2010
ME: "Yes I AM on the state & national do-not-call list! How may I report you?"
THEM: (PAUSE)... "Is the lady of the house home?"
ME: "Yes I AM on the state & national do-not-call list! How may I report you?"
THEM:

Heh, heh, heh...
Bob
 Feb 13th, 2010
ME: "Yes I AM on the state & national do-not-call list! How may I report you?"
THEM: (PAUSE)... "Is the lady of the house home?"
ME: "Yes I AM on the state & national do-not-call list! How may I report you?"
THEM:

Heh, heh, heh...
Bob
 Feb 13th, 2010
When FFCF called they asked me to spell my name for confirmation and wanted my address so they could send me information about their organization. When I asked them who they thought they were calling, they could not give me any name. They probably had a computer generated phone list without names. I hung up. Who does the DNC list actually block?
PFD wife
 Feb 12th, 2010
they called from 215-383-5676 ID said ffcf so I did not answer as I did not know this number
s c homan
 Feb 06th, 2010
I did not answer. No msg. Right after ringing stopped got a call from "Unknown Caller"... hmmm. And... "real" FFCF" is in NY. Not wasting any more time, but will save info for DNC call list complaint if needed.
daBurgh
 Feb 05th, 2010
calls every few months, leaves no messages
exhausted
 Jan 31st, 2010
hung up after 3 rings, left no message
tired
 Jan 20th, 2010
hung up after 3 rings..pain in the tush!
mrs
 Jan 15th, 2010
did not leave a message. I suspect this is on behalf of Verizon since I disconnected my wireless service and the phone number is registered under Peerless Network of PA which is is in turn tightly linked to Verizon based on google search. This is a marketing call most likely trying to get me to sign up for verizon wireless again. I though since I am on the "Do Not call" list in PA I should not receive those calls. I have already received many calls from Verizon since I cancelled my service.
eric
 Jan 09th, 2010
Did not leave a message.
nanosecond
 Jan 04th, 2010
hung up after only 3 rings
Kim
 Dec 31st, 2009
left no message
sulley
 Dec 30th, 2009

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