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WA FOP at 206-866-1938 telephoned at 8:30 PM Aug 23, 2011

A caller (a man) from this number demanded to speak to my dad, James. I told the caller James had passed on. Without a word, the caller rudely hung up.
czdsp@yahoo.com
 Aug 24th, 2011
I get several calls a month from this number (I do not answer.) Wish they would leave me alone.
disgruntled
 Jul 29th, 2010
This is a commercial company. They are a paid telemarketer. This is a commercial for profit company. Their own information states that they keep 85% of all money raised. Allegedly they do fund raising for the WA FOP, Washington Fraternal Order Of Police, so by their own tele-recording on their phone system. Strange that a group that is suppose to be "Law Enforcement" related, is breaking the law. Here is how: They call multiple times per day, one day 16 times. They call before 8 am and after 8 pm. A few days they called at 6 am, A couple days they called at 9:45 pm. They call a cell phone. They contact a number thats a federal government number, which is said cell phone. They also are calling this cell phone outside of Washington state, my cell phone is a 310 area code. These actions violate the Do Not Call Act, the Tele-Consumer Protect Act, and The Electronic Communications Act. They also have several times, when the call was picked up, did not answer. A couple of times when the voice mail picked up, left messages that where several minutes long, of dead silence, before cutting off. I can not imagine a "Law Enforcement" group breaking the law. If these law violations are representative of "Law Enforcement", I just can not support "Law Enforcement". After all, the very first people who should be obeying, following and upholding the law, are the very people who enforce the law, not just my opinion, it's also part of a US Supreme Court ruling.
TangoOne
 Jul 16th, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN"S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


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Amendment I
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Rev James
 Jun 19th, 2010
WA FOP has called us many times under at least five phone numbers:360-547-1903 and 253-929-8876 and 253-275-3604 and 206-866-1925 and 206-866-1938
ed
 May 21st, 2010
They call nightly. Caller ID is blocked for their number. Cool disguise there, WSFOP. Also the poster "Snow" below me must work for them as they have posted on all the forums listing this number and letting us know with the same message that "the FOP is doing a lot of really great things blah blah blah". Like ignoring the repeated requests to Do not call and remove from calling lists. They have called at 8am and 8pm daily.
Cops
 Mar 26th, 2010
fundraising for a corporate ---(?) for fraternal order of police. Would not say how much of donation goes to actual FOP
kat
 Feb 03rd, 2010
This phone number is calling to do fund raising for the Washington State Fraternal Order of Police. I have called the number. It directs you to a customer service department that can answer questions, help you donate, or anything else related to the FOP. Also, there’s information on www.wafop.com. Plus, you can contact them there with any questions or requests.
The FOP is doing a lot of really great things for Washington police officers and the people that call are trying to help them raise money so they can do even more good.
snow
 Jan 21st, 2010

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