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It would be nice if the government or state had a "do-not-call" list for non-profits. Specially when they keep calling although you've asked to be removed more than 20 times and counting!

It is really annoying!!
D
 May 15th, 2012
I get calls from this number everyday at around 5:00 - 6:00 pm. Even when I answer, the person usually hangs up, or is such a poor connection that I can't understand the caller. I believe it is a non-profit collecting money for the Police Athletic League. Sad that the national Do-Not-Call registry does not cover non-profits!
John
 Jun 25th, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN"S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you. revjames@pfcl.org www.badgefraud.org

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


We stand on the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Rev James
 Jun 21st, 2010
Caller hung up immediately
greg
 Jan 18th, 2010
This a professional fund raising outfit using dialing machines, trying to give the impression that they are "with the Police Athletic League" or the "Fraternal Order of Police" etc., and are raising money for the police equipment or youth programs. For years these outfits have preyed upon locals who don't realize very little money they donate through these telemarketers goes to the charity--nearly all of it goes right into the fund raiser's pocket. If you want to give money to your local FOP or PAL, give it to them directly, and they'll get 100% of your donation. It's shameful that organizations agree to let these boiler room fund raisers solicit donations, then keep almost all the money. The charity's excuse always is "We don't have the ability to fund raise ourselves, so if we get anything out of this arrangement it is better than our getting nothing at all."
NJ
 Jan 12th, 2010
Police Athletic League, or so they say. BY mistake, I donated for a couple of years. Big mistake. Persistent. They call daily; often leave blank messages. They totally turn me off.
mh
 Jul 21st, 2009
asked for my husband by name... would not leave a message with me...
Pat
 Jun 24th, 2009
Did not pick up the first time. Second time they called, the guy on the line ask for my husband by name. I sad I don't know who you are or what you want but take us off your calling list. He asked me what I was talking about and then said he must have the wrong number and hung up. Have not had a call since.
Michele
 Jan 25th, 2009
didn't pick up
anonymous
 Jan 21st, 2009
Quite persistent.
Michelle
 Jan 17th, 2009
calls daily, my caller id says "local call" i never pick up
kathy S
 Jan 11th, 2009
Person on the other end of the phone claimed they were from the police athletic league of New Jersey. I told them not to call, but knowing them they will.
Ann Oid
 Oct 28th, 2007
didn't answer
kedor
 Sep 25th, 2007
I have received several calls from this number, but only AFTER I blocked private numbers. You do receive a recording and offers an 800-298-7216 "Customer Service" number.
J.R. Stewart
 Sep 20th, 2007
Called last night and again this afternoon. No message.
tom-m
 Sep 06th, 2007
Just got a call from this number. I mistakenly answered (thinking it was a friend calling). Anyway, the call came in at 9pm so I held on the line for the live agent to let him know he was outside the permitted calling window for telemarketers.

When the agent came on, he said he was happy to hear a "friendly voice" (?!) because he had gotten "pretty beaten up by grumpy people tonight." Whatever. When I mentioned to him that it was 9pm, he said "Is it a bad time for you?" I informed him that telemarketing reglations required calls to end at 9pm and he said "Well, my clock says 8:59 so I guess yours is fast." I thanked him for calling and hung up.

Now I'll know better the next time this number comes up on caller ID...
Gigi
 Aug 21st, 2007
Called the phone number back. Recorded message saying they are collecting for the police athletic league of nj. Never donated and never will by phone.
Jill
 Aug 20th, 2007
They are relentless- I don't answer unknown name calls- ever
TinaF
 Aug 20th, 2007
Received a call today asking for money for children's softball equipment. Told them to send request in mail.
Bill
 Aug 20th, 2007
Called the number back. Recorded message saying it's the police athletic league of nj. I donated a few years ago and no matter how many times I ask to get off their list they call back all the time.
leonj
 Aug 14th, 2007
Several calls from this number. No idea who they are. Never left a message.

If I don't know who's calling I don't pick it up.
tom-m
 Aug 11th, 2007

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