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This number has called me three times, caller ID reads "Penny Apostol" with the number 773-295-1981. They do not leave messages, but when I called it back it says that it's from the Chief of Police and that they're looking for donations.
K Miller
 Nov 22nd, 2011
SCAM!
xenu
 Oct 30th, 2011
no message was left
unknwon
 Oct 27th, 2011
See Dave's comment below. he is correct. The vast majority of money raised by these type of fund raisers goes to the fund raisers - overhead! Maybe a few small percentage points of your contribution actually goes to a charity.
Scott
 Oct 26th, 2011
Penny Apostol, police charity. I told then no not interested years ago, they keep calling with an automated dialer that hangs up when I answer. These people don't understand no. I called their CS who said they would remove me from the list yeah right ...
Glenn
 Oct 22nd, 2011
keep getting a call from "Penny Apostol" but no message is left!
RMN
 Oct 07th, 2011
didnt recognize the number, and when that happens, i never answer the phone. good luck getting a hold me, you jerks.
pete
 Mar 19th, 2011
saying they are from the loyal order of police! my ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jr
 Mar 17th, 2011
Caller claimed to be raising money for police killed or injured in line of duty. Told him I'd be happy to help and to just mail me information as I don't accept phone solicitations. He said they only do phone fundraising. I said goodbye.
JP
 Sep 25th, 2010
shit
Rev James
 Sep 16th, 2010
I used to attend CAPS meetings when I lived downtown. The cops there said NEVER give money to these guys. The money does not go to anything benefiting the Police. Instead, they said to request the information be sent through the mail (as some here have requested). If they're reputable, they'll send the info - if not, they'll give an excuse.
Dave
 Sep 16th, 2010
I don't know if this is a company or a person tired of the phone calls get 2 a day
Bernie
 Jul 21st, 2010
call morning and late evening. I won't answer a number I don't know. Glad to hear who they are. I'm on the no call list. Guess they don't care !!!!
Cheryl
 Jul 16th, 2010
Want to have some fun? I told them I would be happy to donate to the police association as soon as they start doing their job , arresting and deporting illegal aliens. The telemarketer was dumbfounded, which made him vulnerable to my lengthy lecture about illegals ruining the nation. After a few minutes, he rudely hung up. They have not called again.
Will Nottpay
 Jul 12th, 2010
Called when I was out, did not leave a message. I wouldn't have answered anyway since the area code was different than mina so it was spoofing a local call. Called is not a brain surgeon for sure!
Bubba
 Jul 10th, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN"S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


We stand on the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Rev James
 Jun 20th, 2010
Tried to call this number back hear nothing, then a click. Said he was with a police organization. I feel like continuously calling their number and see how they like it.
Chris
 Apr 21st, 2010
these a-holes call every day, at different times of the day trying to find me at home. Sorry, I don't answer non-identifiable calls! We need new laws and better phone company tools to stop these calls from coming through. If I block the call, then they call using the +011 international country code to get around the block.
DJ
 Apr 04th, 2010
Some agency soliciting funds for a police organization. The man got mad when I said Hello, I'm not interested in whatever your calling for thank you and hung up. They call every 3-6 months.
LES
 Mar 13th, 2010
A guy called me at 8:45 PM asking for someone who doesn't live here and never has. When I told him he had the wrong number, he said it must be an old listing, then said maybe I could help him. He then asked if I was of age and it creeped me out, so I hung up. I mean, an older man asking me if I was of age and could help him sounded kind of strange, so I wasn't going to let him continue.
Krys
 Oct 16th, 2009
Call at 7:01 PM - Did not leave a message.
Viki
 Jun 10th, 2009
No ID except Chicago IL and no tones received.
Larry
 Feb 28th, 2009
Solicitation from some Federation of Police. Wouldn't send me info in the mail ("too expensive"). Wanted a minimum pledge of $20. I said thanks, but no thanks, and they went away.
John C
 Dec 20th, 2008

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