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I got a called this morning in my cell phone. I called them back. And see what did they want. I told them. YOU GOT THE WRONG NUMBER. They better leave me alone or I'll sued them for PHONE HARASSMENT.
Rachel
 Feb 16th, 2011
651-204-1341
651-204-1344
651-204-1345
651-204-1347
651-204-1349

They are all the same company...IC Systems (paypal collections) Evil and calls my phone even though I don't have ebay or paypal account.
Rob
 Feb 16th, 2011
This is the number of I.C. Systems, which is a debt collection agency based in Minnesota.
Lisa
 Nov 24th, 2010
I would add this to Cindy's advice .... If you are receiving repeated, misdirected, and/or abusive calls from a third party debt collector, you may find relief in the provisions of the FDCPA, the Federal law which regulates collector behavior. Learn your rights at FTC-dot-gov. See also your state laws for additional support.
Resident47
 Nov 18th, 2010
If you can do it... Block the following RANGE of numbers...

+1 (651) 204-13##
+1 (651) 481-63##

These are owned by IC Systems. They are a collection agency that works for numerous other companies. And they will always call excessively and break the Fair debt collection act.

They will continuously switch phone numbers such that it's hard to block them. Be wary of any 202, 603, 520, 651, or 727 number... Unless you live there, it's probably these pricks at IC systems trying to harass you.
annoyed
 Nov 17th, 2010
they called me at 12:22 AM and left a 5 minute voicemail of a bunch of office people dicking around. apparently someone did not hang up so i heard them all laughing, joking, this and that. i am sure their supervisors will love to hear this voicemail i also heard racist comments as well. i will be calling the affairs number listed here and playing it back to them. hope whoever called me enjoys getting fired. also yes it is paypal collections, a big F U to paypal thanks to them some dumb bitch who bought something from me (and i shipped it with PAYPAL shipping, total JOKE) the item got lost in the mail so i am out of my stuff and $175 negative because the usps "tracking" never updated from electronic shipping info received so paypal forced a refund took what little money i had and left me negative. fuck you paypal i am not paying you. i used your shipping and your service faithfully until you screwed me. GOOGLE CHECKOUT bitches, peace.
wtf
 Apr 25th, 2010
This is IC Systems, a collection agency for bank cards that have been written off. Told them they reap what the sow. In 2007 I paid off 3.5 million in small business loans, had an 830 FICO score, and had ran my own business that employed 30 people for over 16 years. Then the banks decided not to make small business loans any longer because they had taken bad risks on buying up junk mortgages. After losing several big contracts because I couldn't finance raw materials, I was forced to close my business and lay off all my employees. Now I can’t pay them back… their loss. They made their bed. They can get a judgement against me, but can’t attach what isn’t there. By law they can’t take my medicaid and foodstamps, so screw them. I also advised my employees not to bankrupt themselves trying to pay these crooks, they got our tax $$$ with the TARP (JP Morgan/Chase) bailout.

They will call from multiple numbers in different area codes trying to get you to answer their calls. IC Systems calls from over 120 different numbers including: 651-204-1341 800-779-1783 651-204-1316 605-204-1304 651-204-1329 651-481-6302 888-229-8848 651-204-1310 651-204-1349 651-204-1315 651-204-1348 888-735-0697 651-204-1345 651-204-1317 877-572-0159 651-204-1313 651-204-1304 866-858-2784 651-204-1320 651-204-1337 888-735-8029 651-204-1355 800-279-9525 888-312-3593 615-204-1320 651-204-1332 888-858-2784 800-988-4145 651-483-1867 410-968-7953 651-204-2554 651-204-1351 651-204-1314 604-204-1341 651-204-1366 651-204-1361 651-204-1374 651-204-1352 410-968-7955 877-221-3940 651-204-1377 866-903-1001 800-542-9121 888-241-8960 800-844-8001 866-350-8210 651-204-1387 800-561-5695 651-804-1374 651-204-1347 522-417-4563 866-483-8593 877221 651-204-1395 888-710-7271 651-204-9006 682-351-4950 661-533-5750 651-204-1392 651-204-1301 651-204-1093 800-561-4573 605-209-5531 866-389-2466 800-279-8189 813-464-2479 214-233-7251 651-204-1344 651-204-1365 651-204-1399 501-227-4734 866-873-1819 888-474-8332 500-000-0000 510-924-1676 651-204-1463 703-291-9016 202-367-9083 651-204-1299 651-204-1357 202-367-9845 202-367-9027 603-589-7206 202-367-9769 800-988-4154 651-204-1333 651-204-1306 202-367-9234 480-487-8109 800-711-0449 888-229-8896 804-234-9011 202-367-9813 202-367-9236 866-913-5380 712-941-5127 804-234-9008 651-204-1305 651-204-1312 208-991-1267 202-367-9278 651-204-1302 651-204-1321 651-204-1371 208-991-1279 208-991-1246 703-656-9977 651-204-1461 800-737-3122 202-870-5977 888-735-0516 651-204-1379 703-656-9842 651-204-1262 208-991-1256 512-293-3673 208-515-7492
bkrpt
 Apr 06th, 2010
This is IC Systems, a collection agency for bank cards that have been written off. Told them they reap what the sow. In 2007 I paid off 3.5 million in small business loans, had an 830 FICO score, and had ran my own business that employed 30 people for over 16 years. Then the banks decided not to make small business loans any longer because they had taken bad risks on buying up junk mortgages. After losing several big contracts because I couldn't purchase enough raw materials, I was forced to close my business and lay off all my employees. Now I can’t pay them back… their loss. They made their bed. They can get a judgement against me, but can’t attach what isn’t there. By law they can’t take my medicaid and foodstamps, so screw them. I also advised my employees not to bankrupt themselves trying to pay these crooks, they got our tax $$$ with the TARP (JP Morgan/Chase) bailout.

They will call from multiple numbers in different area codes trying to get you to answer their calls. IC Systems calls from over 120 different numbers including: 651-204-1341 800-779-1783 651-204-1316 605-204-1304 651-204-1329 651-481-6302 888-229-8848 651-204-1310 651-204-1349 651-204-1315 651-204-1348 888-735-0697 651-204-1345 651-204-1317 877-572-0159 651-204-1313 651-204-1304 866-858-2784 651-204-1320 651-204-1337 888-735-8029 651-204-1355 800-279-9525 888-312-3593 615-204-1320 651-204-1332 888-858-2784 800-988-4145 651-483-1867 410-968-7953 651-204-2554 651-204-1351 651-204-1314 604-204-1341 651-204-1366 651-204-1361 651-204-1374 651-204-1352 410-968-7955 877-221-3940 651-204-1377 866-903-1001 800-542-9121 888-241-8960 800-844-8001 866-350-8210 651-204-1387 800-561-5695 651-804-1374 651-204-1347 522-417-4563 866-483-8593 877221 651-204-1395 888-710-7271 651-204-9006 682-351-4950 661-533-5750 651-204-1392 651-204-1301 651-204-1093 800-561-4573 605-209-5531 866-389-2466 800-279-8189 813-464-2479 214-233-7251 651-204-1344 651-204-1365 651-204-1399 501-227-4734 866-873-1819 888-474-8332 500-000-0000 510-924-1676 651-204-1463 703-291-9016 202-367-9083 651-204-1299 651-204-1357 202-367-9845 202-367-9027 603-589-7206 202-367-9769 800-988-4154 651-204-1333 651-204-1306 202-367-9234 480-487-8109 800-711-0449 888-229-8896 804-234-9011 202-367-9813 202-367-9236 866-913-5380 712-941-5127 804-234-9008 651-204-1305 651-204-1312 208-991-1267 202-367-9278 651-204-1302 651-204-1321 651-204-1371 208-991-1279 208-991-1246 703-656-9977 651-204-1461 800-737-3122 202-870-5977 888-735-0516 651-204-1379 703-656-9842 651-204-1262 208-991-1256 512-293-3673 202-367-9142 208-991-1268 800-561-4573
bkrpt
 Mar 24th, 2010
This is IC Systems, a collection agency for bank cards that have been written off. Told them they reap what the sow. In 2007 I paid off 3.5 million in small business loans, had an 830 FICO score, and had ran my own business that employed 30 people for over 16 years. Then the banks decided not to make small business loans any longer because they had taken bad risks on buying up junk mortgages. After losing several big contracts because I couldn't purchase enough raw materials, I was forced to close my business and lay off all my employees. Now I can’t pay them back… their loss. They made their bed. They can get a judgement against me, but can’t attach what isn’t there. By law they can’t take my medicaid and foodstamps, so screw them. I also advised my employees not to bankrupt themselves trying to pay these crooks, they got our tax $$$ with the TARP (JP Morgan/Chase) bailout.

They will call from multiple numbers in different area codes trying to get you to answer their calls. IC Systems calls from over 120 different numbers including: 651-204-1341 800-779-1783 651-204-1316 605-204-1304 651-204-1329 651-481-6302 888-229-8848 651-204-1310 651-204-1349 651-204-1315 651-204-1348 888-735-0697 651-204-1345 651-204-1317 877-572-0159 651-204-1313 651-204-1304 866-858-2784 651-204-1320 651-204-1337 888-735-8029 651-204-1355 800-279-9525 888-312-3593 615-204-1320 651-204-1332 888-858-2784 800-988-4145 651-483-1867 410-968-7953 651-204-2554 651-204-1351 651-204-1314 604-204-1341 651-204-1366 651-204-1361 651-204-1374 651-204-1352 410-968-7955 877-221-3940 651-204-1377 866-903-1001 800-542-9121 888-241-8960 800-844-8001 866-350-8210 651-204-1387 800-561-5695 651-804-1374 651-204-1347 522-417-4563 866-483-8593 877221 651-204-1395 888-710-7271 651-204-9006 682-351-4950 661-533-5750 651-204-1392 651-204-1301 651-204-1093 800-561-4573 605-209-5531 866-389-2466 800-279-8189 813-464-2479 214-233-7251 651-204-1344 651-204-1365 651-204-1399 501-227-4734 866-873-1819 888-474-8332 500-000-0000 510-924-1676 651-204-1463 703-291-9016 202-367-9083 651-204-1299 651-204-1357 202-367-9845 202-367-9027 603-589-7206 202-367-9769 800-988-4154 651-204-1333 651-204-1306 202-367-9234 480-487-8109 800-711-0449 888-229-8896 804-234-9011 202-367-9813 202-367-9236 866-913-5380 712-941-5127 804-234-9008 651-204-1305 651-204-1312 208-991-1267 202-367-9278 651-204-1302 651-204-1321 651-204-1371 208-991-1279 208-991-1246 703-656-9977 651-204-1461 800-737-3122 202-870-5977 888-735-0516 651-204-1379 703-656-9842 651-204-1262 208-991-1256 512-293-3673 202-367-9142
bkrpt
 Mar 17th, 2010
This is IC Systems, a collection agency for bank cards that have been written off. Told them they reap what the sow. In 2007 I paid off 3.5 million in small business loans, had an 830 FICO score, and had ran my own business that employed 30 people for over 16 years. Then the banks decided not to make small business loans any longer because they had taken bad risks on buying up junk mortgages. After losing several big contracts because I couldn't finance raw materials, I was forced to close my business and lay off all my employees. Now I can’t pay them back… their loss. They made their bed. They can get a judgement against me, but can’t attach what isn’t there. By law they can’t take my medicaid and foodstamps, so screw them. I also advised my employees not to bankrupt themselves trying to pay these crooks, they got our tax $$$ with the TARP (JP Morgan/Chase) bailout.

They will call from multiple numbers in different area codes trying to get you to answer their calls. IC Systems calls from over 120 different numbers including: 651-204-1341 800-779-1783 651-204-1316 605-204-1304 651-204-1329 651-481-6302 888-229-8848 651-204-1310 651-204-1349 651-204-1315 651-204-1348 888-735-0697 651-204-1345 651-204-1317 877-572-0159 651-204-1313 651-204-1304 866-858-2784 651-204-1320 651-204-1337 888-735-8029 651-204-1355 800-279-9525 888-312-3593 615-204-1320 651-204-1332 888-858-2784 800-988-4145 651-483-1867 410-968-7953 651-204-2554 651-204-1351 651-204-1314 604-204-1341 651-204-1366 651-204-1361 651-204-1374 651-204-1352 410-968-7955 877-221-3940 651-204-1377 866-903-1001 800-542-9121 888-241-8960 800-844-8001 866-350-8210 651-204-1387 800-561-5695 651-804-1374 651-204-1347 522-417-4563 866-483-8593 877221 651-204-1395 888-710-7271 651-204-9006 682-351-4950 661-533-5750 651-204-1392 651-204-1301 651-204-1093 800-561-4573 605-209-5531 866-389-2466 800-279-8189 813-464-2479 214-233-7251 651-204-1344 651-204-1365 651-204-1399 501-227-4734 866-873-1819 888-474-8332 500-000-0000 510-924-1676 651-204-1463 703-291-9016 202-367-9083 651-204-1299 651-204-1357 202-367-9845 202-367-9027 603-589-7206 202-367-9769 800-988-4154 651-204-1333 651-204-1306 202-367-9234 480-487-8109 800-711-0449 888-229-8896 804-234-9011 202-367-9813 202-367-9236 866-913-5380 712-941-5127 804-234-9008 651-204-1305 651-204-1312 208-991-1267 202-367-9278 651-204-1302 651-204-1321 651-204-1371 208-991-1279 208-991-1246 703-656-9977 651-204-1461 800-737-3122 202-870-5977 888-735-0516 651-204-1379 703-656-9842 651-204-1262 208-991-1256 512-293-3673
bkrpt
 Mar 15th, 2010
I have been getting calls from them as well regarding medical collections. Please everyone who has medical collections request in writing an explaination of the bill, who the doctor was, what the proceedure was and what was the initial cost? This website can assist in what the law reads.

http://personalinsure.about.com/od/health/a/aa041806a.htm

Now as a collection agency who is a third party they should be able to explain the debt, but IF the Doctor or his billing assistant have breached your medical privacy then you may have a case against both agencies...Check it out, never hurts to find out what our rights are.
Caller ID: 651-204-1361
Caller: IC Systems
Caller Type: Collection Agency
Cindy
 Feb 16th, 2010
I just received a phone call from this company. You know what. I am not going to sweat it at all. I missed payment on my cell phone on a month so I paid it up when I seen it on the cell phone carrier. I can see if I overmissed paying for the service but its all caught up.

This company wants $300. ANd they say its in the contract. I will have to look it up and see for certain.

The guy wanted me to listen to him and I told him "are you alleging" Don't admit to it!

Just go along. Thanks for the other numbers on here. I will keep it around as well.
unknown
 Jul 15th, 2009
I get calls at least three times a day from 651-204-1329. No one ever is on the line, and they never leave a message. I have tried to block it on my phone but am unable to do so.
Courtney Stow
cstow76@hotmail.com
Courtney Stow
 Jun 19th, 2009
Here is how we can fight back and annoy them by calling them all day, use Icall with macros for a free auto dialer over the pc


Mr. Kenneth Rapp - President/CEO krapp@icsystem.com
Ms. Barbara Erickson - Chairman berickson@icsystem.com
Mr. John Erickson, Jr. - Owner jerickson@icsystem.com
Ms. Sue Johnson - Corporate Paralegal sjohnson@icsystem.com
Mr. Kurt Heinbigner - CFO kheinbigner@icsystem.com
Mr. David Spencer - Director of Operations dspencer@icsystem.com

anyone surprised that the CEO's name is krapp?

Kerry Henderson khenderson@icsystem.com
1-651-481-6327

Charles Halfen chalfen@icsystem.com
1-651-481-6309

Don Turner dturner@icsystem.com
1-651-481-6371

Also goes by
Adams Cooper & Marks
444 East Highway 96
Vadnais Heights, MN 55127

1-520-577-0173
1-608-784-0713
1-641-424-0130
1-651-204-1314
1-651-204-1317
1-651-204-1329
1-651-204-1341
1-651-204-1349
1-651-204-1361
1-651-204-1374
1-651-204-1395
1-651-481-6302
1-651-483-8201
1-800-279-6711
1-800-279-7951
1-800-279-9525
1-800-443-4123
1-800-685-0595
1-800-932-3328
1-866-467-7545
1-866-672-1449
1-866-903-1001
1-888-735-8029
lisa
 Jan 26th, 2009
This company is a debt collector. They have many many complaints. Please file a complaint with the attorny generals office in your state together we can shut this company down.

Here is some info I have located about this company!

Mr. Kenneth Rapp - President/CEO krapp@icsystem.com
Ms. Barbara Erickson - Chairman berickson@icsystem.com
Mr. John Erickson, Jr. - Owner jerickson@icsystem.com
Ms. Sue Johnson - Corporate Paralegal sjohnson@icsystem.com
Mr. Kurt Heinbigner - CFO kheinbigner@icsystem.com
Mr. David Spencer - Director of Operations dspencer@icsystem.com

anyone surprised that the CEO's name is krapp?

Kerry Henderson khenderson@icsystem.com
1-651-481-6327

Charles Halfen chalfen@icsystem.com
1-651-481-6309

Don Turner dturner@icsystem.com
1-651-481-6371

Also goes by
Adams Cooper & Marks
444 East Highway 96
Vadnais Heights, MN 55127

1-520-577-0173
1-608-784-0713
1-641-424-0130
1-651-204-1314
1-651-204-1317
1-651-204-1329
1-651-204-1341
1-651-204-1349
1-651-204-1361
1-651-204-1374
1-651-204-1395
1-651-481-6302
1-651-483-8201
1-800-279-6711
1-800-279-7951
1-800-279-9525
1-800-443-4123
1-800-685-0595
1-800-932-3328
1-866-467-7545
1-866-672-1449
1-866-903-1001
1-888-735-8029

I would also sugest we all overload there switchboard by calling them every single day like they do! Call them repeatedly when ever possible, they hate it!
lisa
 Jan 26th, 2009
IC Systems was what a very nice lady answered with. Seems like a good collection company which Paypal is currently using. I have nothing against IC Systems for they seem to be doing their job professionally. Paypal on the other hand is not as professional.
anonymous
 Oct 29th, 2008
these bastards are ruthless. today, 6/23/08, they have called me 9 times, they have enough time to call me at least 3 more times, and it's currently 8:25pm. they have called me as early as 8:01am, and as late as 8:59pm, no lie. sometimes they call back to back, two calls came within 6 minutes of each other today. they will continue to get sent to voicemail because I will NEVER pick up the call. There's nothing to discuss. collect the money from the scammer that got my account, i told ebay and paypal, they didnt care, and I DONT EITHER.
DD
 Jun 24th, 2008
collection agency for paypal. no names given.
cynt
 May 29th, 2008
The phone rings from this IC system company and when I answer it no one is ever there. It's just silent. Several times a week.
R. Wilson
 Mar 31st, 2008
This phone calls about 5-6 time a day and there is no response when phone is answered and greeted they don't respond click sounds then hang up.
LG
 Mar 27th, 2008
They have called me several times in the last weeks ...today 3 x s and say nothing. I believe its also paypall collection agency. I got screwed out of 95.00 because some lady claimed the post office broke her item and I had covered it under insurance and they made her send it back to me and stole my money out of my account. Well SCREW PAYPAL !
Maggie
 Mar 26th, 2008
Claims to be calling from a IC Systems on Behalf of the Internet website Paypal. The customer service representatives call my phone daily and do their best to harass whoever answers the phone. Phone number is based somewhere in Twin Cities, MN.
JT
 Mar 06th, 2008
I got tired of these calls that left no messages......I called them. It was a collection company used by PayPal.....My son (12yrs old) had an acct for his online gaming...there was fraud commited on this act, so I had closed it not realizing I had to pay back the money on this fraudulant issue. I paid the acct and told the company to stop calling..This is my cell phone....had they left me a message, I would have called them back. This is a RUDE, Vicious, and demanding company. They don't want to Talk With you, they just want your money. I hope Paypal realizes the negative publicity they are getting from this. Paypal didn't want to resolve the fraudulant activity, they just turn it over to these "sharks"..Paypal is not the "SAFE"
company they advertise....they give you the credit immediately, and then let these guys loose on you to "clean up"..never once did I hear anything about the FRAUD company or the issues take to resolve the problem...but we sure heard from their SHARKS. Paypal sucks for using this company as a way to deal with these type of issues.
SLG
 Feb 02nd, 2008
If you want them or any other creditor to stop calling you, you can mail them a cease and desist letter like the following:

{Full Name}
{Full Address}

(Sent via CERTIFIED RETURN MAIL with RETURN RECEIPT)

{Today's date}
I.C. System, Inc.
444 Highway 96 East, P.O. Box 64887
St. Paul, MN 55164-0887

Re: {Creditor Name}
Steve
 Jan 29th, 2008
This number called TWICE.
M.
 Dec 22nd, 2007
After giving it some thought, I came up with a really good way to get back at these people! If they're calling on your cell here's what you do. First store all their numbers under DON'T ANSWER. The numbers they've used in the past are below (I'm sure there's more too).
651-204-1349
402-935-7733
800-375-0808
888-241-8960
Once you've done that, you can set that name to SILENT on most cell phones so you don't hear it ring. Others have suggested that so nothing new there. Now for the good part!
Most cell companies include No Answer Transfer in their plans. With Verizon you punch in *71. So set the number to ICS Systems main phone number (the one they DON'T use to harass people). Now then you punch in *716-514-816409 (their number), all calls you don't answer go back to them. Just make sure you answer it if it's a friend or business or their calls are going to ICS! To deactivate (on Verizon), you punch in *73. When IC Systems calls you and you don't answer it, their harassing call gets sent right to their main phone line. They don't know who's sending it since if they have caller ID on the main line, it will show THEIR OWN phone number!!
Payback is a B*tch!!
No More ICS
 Dec 21st, 2007
Skot, go directly to their website and contact customer service instead of sending it postal. Ask them to verify their information is correct and state the validity and originality of any debt they claim is owed. They're going to need your phone number.
simplydeb00
 Dec 09th, 2007
I keep getting calls from various numbers - including this one 651-204-1349 - & it always goes back to Paypal in Minnesota when I can find anything at all? But, they won't say who they are? My wife is disabled & not well enough to get online & I have asked them to send a paper message via united states postal service. WHO is this???
Skot
 Nov 30th, 2007
Received a call from this number today and wow! I can't seem to get over the complaints. They've only called once but I am ready to file an FTC complaint if they get rude just once. If it is associated with Paypal then the only thing I can link this problem to is when I joined TreasureTroopers.com. I cancelled it within the first week because I didn't like it. However! At one point they asked for my Paypal address to let me know where to send my money. Yep.....are you thinking what I'm thinking?
simplydeb00
 Nov 27th, 2007
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j
 Nov 08th, 2007
Received a call. They said "Jen" I said this is her. Then they hung up!
Jen
 Oct 25th, 2007
WARNING - PayPal Lackies! This is a debt collector... Typical Rude and irritable with you.
Travis
 Oct 25th, 2007
Um, they called me at 6:25 am. I photographed my phone with this number up as proof for the time of call. I haven't answered yet, but if my Paypal account is negative, that's news to me.
JJ
 Oct 12th, 2007
I have been receiving calls day and night. I finally answered it today but no one on the other line. I am not in debt, I don't owe any money, nor do I have a paypal account. What then?
Ruby
 Sep 19th, 2007
Juliane-

Contact your bank immediately and tell them that it was an unauthorized withdrawal. Hopefully they can reverse the transaction. Tell them to put a stop to all future electronic withdrawals.
Carl
 Sep 12th, 2007
They have not called me, but I got their number from my online bank statement next to their company name and the note that $255.00 had been taken out of our acct by them. We do have a Paypal acct, so we're checking into that to see what's going on. We never authorized them though to just take money out of the acct.....?????
Juliane
 Sep 11th, 2007
Rude people. I understand a collection agency has a job to do but these people (working for Washington Mutual for Paypal) are absolutely rude! Not to mention they call 2-3 times every day!
Jason
 Aug 30th, 2007
I have started receiving the exact same type of calls from the above referenced #...half the time when I answer,nothing is said and line drops. This # calls every single day at all hours,weekends and multiple times. Yes, EBay and PayPal are on the top of my list for fraudulent acts...Ebay claimed My account was merely associated with another users account that was in violation of their rules - what the? why punish me? how would I know that? So Ebay closed my account and it's a done deal now...I do not mind speaking with creditors I owe, but will start avoiding it because 9 out of 10 times I get nothing but NASTY, NASTY, RUDE attitudes and refusal to work out an amount I can afford to send in...I always get heavily pressured to send more than I can afford which then causes me even more problems. Can't imagine why I just avoid them all together...Oh and what kills me is that Paypal will no longer let me use the credit card because I have reached the credit limit, but they certainly do not mind letting a company charge subscription fees even to this day which continues to jack up my balance way over the credit limit I was allowed. Yes, I know, I have cancelled all but one of the subscriptions...I have to formally request cancellation which does not gurantee cancellation...so I figured, hey, no payment off credit card since limit was met, then they will have no choice but to cancell...WRONG...blah, blah, blah...boy, what a lesson I have learned from these GREEDY companies and what a mess.
Sunny
 Aug 28th, 2007
KAY has the right idea to stop these people, we need a class action lawsuit. An agency can be SHUT DOWN for this kind of bullshit harassment and it wouldn't take much, I can clearlysee how blatent their ignorance is. It wouldnt take too manyof us if but a few to stop these people and I would be interested in coordinating the efforte. Send me an email at skydivr420@hotmail.com with an description of the harassment and how I might contact you once I find an attorney to take our case
Sean
 Aug 22nd, 2007
This will be fun for me because I am an ethical collector at a law firm who treats people with dignity and respect, as you can imagine I am quite up to speed on the FDCPA and it's laws which govern the activities of this agency. I'm sure that by days end they will have broken the law multiple times.
Sean
 Aug 22nd, 2007
Got my first call from these people today, on my cell while at work so I reversed it immediately...clearly I can expect a barrage of calls based on these comments! I havent been to paypal's site yet to see why they are calling but there is no reason for it, I used paypal ONCE a year ago.
Sean
 Aug 22nd, 2007
I also get repeated phone calls from these people. I don't have a paypal account or any debt with paypal. They don't stop calling, sometimes they call 7 times a day. I don't know how but they got my cell phone number. Is that legal? I've stopped answering the phone, yet they still call. When I did answer the phone I went off on this bitch and she has the nerve to hang up on me?? Do these people have any idea how to run a business? Do they stop calling?? Well these people are obnoxious and complete idiots. No messages either!!! What's up with that??
sheila
 Aug 07th, 2007
Stupid cracker heads won't leave me alone.

"People call me on the phone I'm trying to avoid.." - Rockwell "Somebody's Watchin me"
Niles
 Jul 28th, 2007
This company keeps calling me 8 times a day, and even had guts to send me a letter to my address, DEMANDING the money that I do not owe. The seller never sent me an item, and I filed a dispute. Instead of working with me directly, paypal decided to handle this situation through this IC. Systems. Screw them! I am sick of it, I am not going to pay money for something I NEVER received!
Aly
 Jul 12th, 2007
these people ar NUTS ! they call me 7-9 times a day ---no kidding . i painted a guitar for an annoying woman who never sent the item back me and then had the balls to do a chargeback thru ppal...paypal and this co. refuse to give me credit card info that did the charge back and i have not received the guitar back either. and my account has gone negative due to paypal help this stupid woman with her rediculous chargeback...i have the right to know who is doing this to me and i am denied that info...meanwhile after asking 'i.c.systems' as they are known..to stop harrassing me ,they continue to call me 7 to 9 times a day ! they should be stopped !!!
robert
 Jul 09th, 2007
If you want them to stop calling you have to send them a letter..... unless its a cell phone you can verbally cease them from that or if the phone number is in antoher persons name. Otherwise pick up say you are who you are and hang up they are only allowed to have 1 contact with you per day. Your best bet is to pick up and say you want a settlement tell them you will give them half of what you owe and more than likely they will take it.
April
 Jun 29th, 2007
these guys are top notch assholes but I can be a number one bitch. They just called and some woman asked for kimberly schaub. I told her she was speaking to her. She explained she was calling for a collection via paypal in the amount of $214.00 - then she just stopped speaking like that was going to trigger something. She then asked how was I going to pay. I told her I wasn't going to pay or attempt to. so she got really pissy really fast - and that turned my bitch meter on too. she said I was going to pay and I explained that I sold a MINK coat on ebay to a scammer who bought it, paid for it, wore it once and ripped it and thought I was going to refund her for her fat ass wearing my damn coat. So the lady stupidly asked why would someone do that, so I told her to fucking call the bitch that did it. Why the hell would I know? All I know is that I have pictures of the coat front, back, sides, me taking measurements inside and out and it wasn't ripped and when it was returned it apparent it was worn and torn so that is paypal's issue to eat that loss - I didn't tell them to refund her money and they didn't ask for my proof which I offered to show my case. Of course, this skank, decided she would raise her voice and talk real loud - because that works for some people. So I started singing in a harrassing voice, "not gonna happen, not gonna happen, etc....." and she got pissed and hung up on me. Oh well. I now am reporting her and her company to the ftc and bbb.
kimberly schaub
 Jun 27th, 2007
Collection Agency for PayPal.
Alex
 Jun 21st, 2007
It's a PayPal Collection Agency. I have a negative balance with PayPal due to fraudulent use of my Account. PayPal is working with me to reslove the negative balance however if you show a negative balance over a long period of time PayPal automatically turns it over to Collections.
Eric
 Jun 21st, 2007
Receive 4 calls per day. Never leave a message. Paypal paid money to a Ebay buyer when I had no funds in my account. Called paypal but they would not honor any other form of payment.
Ron
 Jun 13th, 2007
the calls are up to 6 times a day including sunday... is this leagal i have proof on my phone bill.. never amessahe but many many hangups!?!?!
Jay Jay
 Jun 12th, 2007
§ 804. Acquisition of location information [15 USC 1692b]

Any debt collector communicating with any person other than the consumer for the purpose of acquiring location information about the consumer shall --
(1) identify himself, state that he is confirming or correcting location information concerning the consumer, and, only if expressly requested, identify his employer;
(2) not state that such consumer owes any debt;
(3) not communicate with any such person more than once unless requested to do so by such person or unless the debt collector reasonably believes that the earlier response of such person is erroneous or incomplete and that such person now has correct or complete location information;
(4) not communicate by post card;
(5) not use any language or symbol on any envelope or in the contents of any communication effected by the mails or telegram that indicates that the debt collector is in the debt collection business or that the communication relates to the collection of a debt; and
(6) after the debt collector knows the consumer is represented by an attorney with regard to the subject debt and has knowledge of, or can readily ascertain, such attorney's name and address, not communicate with any person other than that attorney, unless the attorney fails to respond within a reasonable period of time to the communication from the debt collector.
KAY
 Jun 08th, 2007
I have been reading the fair debt collection act - they can call AFTER 8am and BEFORE 9pm. § 806. Harassment or abuse [15 USC 1692d]

A debt collector may not engage in any conduct the natural consequence of which is to harass, oppress, or abuse any person in connection with the collection of a debt. Without limiting the general application of the foregoing, the following conduct is a violation of this section:

(1) The use or threat of use of violence or other criminal means to harm the physical person, reputation, or property of any person.

(2) The use of obscene or profane language or language the natural consequence of which is to abuse the hearer or reader.
(3) The publication of a list of consumers who allegedly refuse to pay debts, except to a consumer reporting agency or to persons meeting the requirements of section 603(f) or 604(3)1 of this Act.

(4) The advertisement for sale of any debt to coerce payment of the debt.

(5) Causing a telephone to ring or engaging any person in telephone conversation repeatedly or continuously with intent to annoy, abuse, or harass any person at the called number.

(6) Except as provided in section 804, the placement of telephone calls without meaningful disclosure of the caller's identity.
Kay
 Jun 08th, 2007
Anyone want to get together AGAINST paypal? please let me know. I think it is called a CLASS ACTION. If we could get enough interest it would be good to put ebay/paypal in their place.
Kay
 Jun 08th, 2007
Oh, I should say that the reason I have a negative balance is because on the VERY LAST day possible was able to contact the bank and have these charges reversed. I have filled out papers with the bank - but they still owe me more. I did a great many transactions in a 3 month period - about 6K. There were bound to be some bad deals. anyway, too long to go into. BUT I would never trust paypal to do a dispute resolution - I also don't believe that if a buyer gets the wrong thing the buyer has to send it back at their expense before paypal will refund the money. I think if the seller screws up the seller needs to pay the return postage. There are 2 other sellers that got me to wait until I was to the point of not being able to contest it with the bank or paypal. I am very upset about the whole thing.
Kay
 Jun 08th, 2007
I am glad this WHO CALLED is here. Now I know who has been calling me. I too have a negative account balance with PAYPAL. But they owe me. I used their dispute resolution system as opposed to contacting my bank and just flat out cancelling the charge. This guy from Canada screwed me out of 360.00 worth of product - ebay closed his account before I filed my complaint - he has 100% positive feedback. EBAY FEEDBACK IS CRAP - this seller left feedback first until it came to me. As a sucker I won 57 auctions from this seller and he sent me one small box with a tracking number which he provided to paypal and now PAYPAL said that was all he needed to prove I DID GET THE STUFF. I have pictures of this SMALL box and its contents. I got about 60.00 of the product I won. Now he is BACK on ebay and CHANGED HIS ID and now selling ADULT merchandise. has never left ME feedback and I won't leave it for him because it would be sure to be nasty - and ruin MY 100% FEEDBACK RATING. OKAY - I.C. System, Inc. 651-204-1349 shows up on my caller id. NO Message EVER. They started today at 8:19am. As far as I know it is against the law to call BEFORE 8:30AM and after 9PM. I will file a report on the DO NOT CALL registry. They called 5 times yesterday. They just started calling me in the last 1-2 weeks. And it seems I get calls everyday - several times a day.
Kay
 Jun 08th, 2007
LOL... these guys call and don't even say anything... who are they? who care?
just go away...
Cattie
 Jun 03rd, 2007
Collections Company
Elmer Fudd
 Jun 01st, 2007
They call me 4 times a day.. I have told them Im not the person they are looking for and they keep calling
Aaron
 May 31st, 2007
I just got called from these jerks and they wanted to know my address. They said that they were calling about my Paypal acct. I told I didn't request anything from them and hung up.
Vic
 May 17th, 2007
**PLEASE REPORT I.C. SYSTEMS TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU IF THEY ARE HARRASSING YOU** According to the BBB website,
"Under the Federal Trade Commission's Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, collection agencies may not use any false, deceptive or misleading representations or means to collect debts. They may not harass, oppress, or abuse any person while attempting to collect a debt. A debtor may be contacted between the hours of 8 a.m. and 9 p.m. only and can be contacted at work unless instructed not to. Collectors may not tell others about the debtor's personal finances."
The BBB website also says about IC Systems:
"Based on BBB files, this company has a satisfactory record"
"When considering complaint information, please take into account the company's size and The Bureau processed a total of 620 complaints about this company in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period. Of the total of 620 complaints closed in 36 months, 243 were closed in the last year."
HH
 May 11th, 2007
DOes anyone know about how you get past Ic and paypal with there bulshit..I supposedly owe them a lot and they didnt help me with the chargeback cuz i had an email of the guy blackmailing me for more money and talkin junk..im pretty sure that woulda won it for me but anyway paypal dont care. And I got no merchandise back now and they want me to pay..Anyone Know wat to do or been in this situation before?? thanks
Chris
 May 10th, 2007
Recived call at 6:00pm. Rude person. When I asked what she was wearing, she hung up, what gives?
Ian
 May 09th, 2007
I have fun with them....Call them back over and over and harass them like they do to us. And guess what...they can't do anything about it...I have made it my mission to screw with them like they do to us....Please everyone join me....Sherly and Joe are supervisors...I have gotten to know them quite well....And I know Sherly is pretty kinky, ask her about it, she loves to talk dirty :)
Jake
 May 08th, 2007
My Convo with these rude people:

They explain the whole debt.

Me:"Well, here's the deal I am out of work so I have to ask myself the question what is more imporant a 300.0 paypal debt or food for my son"
IC Systems:"At this point we can eithet take check or major credit card. Any chance of getting this taking care of today?"

Wow. Says alot about their integrity or lack of.
Josh
 May 07th, 2007
They keep callin me aswell.I got cursed at a few times to. Paypal is being gay because the buyers card company ruled in favor for him and now he gets his money back and my expensive product and paypal wants me to get it back myself..Like the guy will. Can i block dis # permantly and them never call again
Chris
 May 07th, 2007
This # keeps calling me 10x a day. Until I found this site, I figured it was another credit agency, so now that I hear it's PayPal, I am worried! Maybe next time I will answer the phone.
Stacie
 Apr 30th, 2007
They've called me 3 times now. I wasn't near my phone to answer 2 of the calls (and they did not leave a message), but the one call that I did answer (early enough in the morning to the point the sun was not out yet!), they called and asked for someone named "Larry". I told the lady she had the wrong number and she said "well then why did you pick up the phone?!?!" If I wasn't 95% asleep, I would have given her a piece of my mind. Needless to say, next time they call, they will be getting it. Latest call was this morning.
Manny
 Apr 30th, 2007
Calls me at least 10 times a day. Sometimes every 15 minutes. As early as 8:00 am (4/28). And as late as 11:00 pm. Sometimes, refuses to answer when I pick up. I owe them nothing, I didn't even know what PayPal was until I googled this # and looked up "PayPal" as everyone is stating.
Rex
 Apr 29th, 2007
This company called me for a legitimate debt that I owed E-Bay. She was very friendly, we made an arrangement and exchanged pleasantries. No problem.
Matt
 Apr 24th, 2007
THEY ARE VERY VERY VERY RUDE. This guy was an asshole to me! His name was Tom, he was horrible.
Dianna
 Apr 21st, 2007
I keep having this phone# call my work phone # & when I answer there's no one there.
Nic
 Apr 20th, 2007
SEND THEM A LETTER CERTIFIED MAIL RETURN RECIEPT SAYING YOU DONT WANT ANY CONTACT BY THEM WHATSOEVER. IF THEY DONT LISTEN FILE A SMALL CLAIMS SUIT AGAINST THEM. ITS VERY CHEAP TO FILE AND THEY WILL OWE 1000 PER VIOLIATION. KEEP ALL CALLS LOGGED. CONTACT PHONE COMPANY TO TRAP EACH CALL.
Melissa
 Apr 18th, 2007
They call me everyday. at diffrent hours! I am fed up!
michelle
 Apr 17th, 2007
They kept calling even though we told them it was a wrong number. Finally called them back and actually got someone on the line and they said they'd stop calling. We'll see if that happens.
Monica
 Apr 16th, 2007
These stupid bastards continue to call even though I tell them that they have the wrong #. Why would they keep calling and asking for Kyle when I repeatedly inform them that they have the wrong #?
HARASSING DUMB FUCKS!!!
Jason
 Apr 13th, 2007
Got a call twice within 30 min and never left a message. Glad I googled the number. BTW paypal SUCKS! Try authorize . net for cc transactions. Paypal is a scam and can ruin your business.
Jason
 Apr 11th, 2007
We have a paypal account that is perfectly fine. According to Paypal, we owe nothing yet these people continue to harass us. I don't want bad credit or any marks on my credit report because of these idiots. My phone number is a private number and when I picked up, the girl started yelling at me and then hung up. This is harassment and I'm filing a complaint with my local police force.
MaryAnne
 Apr 04th, 2007
To get them to stop calling you need to send or fax 800-328-9595) a written cease communication notice. For an example letter, go to www.budhibbs.com.
carl
 Apr 03rd, 2007
Fuck these people. Every 2 fucking hours they call and I never answer. I hate them. They are trying to collect money from me because my paypal balance is in the negative. Although it is not my fault that it is in the negative. They are wrong. How do I get them to stop calling, damn.
Fus
 Apr 03rd, 2007
IC Systems calls me at least 3 times a day...around 8:30 AM, 2:00 and 5:30. One the weekends it's at least 4 times !
Janelis
 Mar 30th, 2007
These people have called my phone number 5 times today so far. Since 8am EST!
Christian
 Mar 29th, 2007
Sorry there but the FDCPA does not require collectors to stop calling with a verbal cease and desist! Call the Federal Trade if you do not believe me...
MELISSA
 Mar 29th, 2007
WANT O GET EVEN WITH ICS?

Put there number in an underpriced car for sale ad on Craigslist St Paul Minnestota (The ICS home city) http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ and let them see how they like receiving 1,000 calls per day. Put there number everywhere...FREE IPODS...FREE PARIS HILTON PICS...whatever you can think of.

I tried notifying them to quit calling me. They are required by the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act to contact you only by mail if you request it. But the bas#*rds keep calling.

If enough people put there number out there it should work.
OtherBob
 Mar 28th, 2007
An amateur company with amateur tactics and employees. Pay them no mind. Remember, it's Paypal's money their spending to make these useless phone calls ... not yours. :)
John
 Mar 26th, 2007
So they called for the 4th time today. So I answered the phone and left it. Kind of like they do when you answer the phone and they do not talk. They got the same thing today. I do not owe paypal a thing and have told them many times they have the wrong number!!!
Tracy
 Mar 26th, 2007
This company is rude and I have launched a complaint with the BBB. They are coming after me for some Paypal charge I have never even had an account with Paypal. If anyone has any ideas on making them listen I am open to ideas.
marcella
 Mar 21st, 2007
I opened a PAYPAL account yesterday and conducted ONE transaction, which went through just fine and was for under $20. When I signed up at PAYPAL, I gave my home phone (land line) as my contact number. I have a BRAND NEW cell # -- I have had it only a few days, but I got a call from this 605 number today -- I hung up when I realized it was a machine asking me to 'hold' for a real person (homey don't playdat.) I don't know how these IC Systems people got my number, nor why they would be harrassing me but I can only assume it's somehow linked to registering with PAYPAL yesterday. I just cancelled that account but am terrified they will attempt to eat up my cell minutes with bogus calls.
EMG
 Mar 21st, 2007
Calls from this number are happening two to three times a day for the last month or so. There is never anyone on the line when we answer. Calls usually start about 8:30am every day.
CV
 Mar 21st, 2007
This number calls me 3-5 times a day! They wake me up extrememly early in the morning and continue to call, leaving the same voicemail day after day. I have never been so annoyed in my life! Someone has to do something about this company, all my tries go unanswered.
Brittany
 Mar 19th, 2007
Same thing as above..PayPal collections and they refuse to leave a message. I called back and talked to a costumer service rep that was RUDE. They claim my account has a negative balance which was bullshit. I log into my account, and it says I have money in it. I use the account regularly, but they insist its negative. Ridiculous...
Will
 Mar 19th, 2007
I have answered this call twice with no one on the other end sounds like its dead or a bad connection but they call everyday more than once leave no message.
Rob
 Mar 13th, 2007
These guys needs to send me a "hardcopy" of whatever they are trying to collect on. Toooo many scammers out there to trust. Just send a hardcopy and stop calling!!!!Because, I am NOT going to answer them. I NEVER had a PAYPAL account....
Paul
 Mar 01st, 2007
called me at 7am! about paypal that I have not used in some time now!
carlos
 Feb 24th, 2007
Called my cell 2/19/07 and I let it go to voicemail. Left message to call them about a "personal matter." I didn't call them back.
Kathy
 Feb 19th, 2007
These people started calling yesterday. Here we go again today. huuugh.
TB
 Feb 16th, 2007
Ahh, let the calls begin
TB
 Feb 15th, 2007
They have been calling me for the last week or so 2 or 3 times a day, looking for someone who I guess used to have my cell number named "Stephanie" as soon as I say "no" they hang up so I can't even tell them to quit calling me. Filing with the FTC works and I will do that if they call me again. I had to do that against Sprint in a similar situation. Although that was more amusing as they did not believe I did not know this "Stephanie" character and threatened to cut off my cell service if I did not pay. When I told them I had Verizon they were undeterred. After I filed my complaint they never called back,
Pete
 Feb 13th, 2007
Receiving calls to our 14-year old son's private line. He obviously doesn't have a paypal account and we've never sold anything over the internet via paypal or used that number to make any transaction. We answer and they mumble something and then hang up. Obviously a wrong number at best... but why don't they attempt a conversation to establish that?? I'm blocking the number.
Gary
 Feb 10th, 2007
call but no message
Frank
 Feb 09th, 2007

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