To all you people thinking we should have to fill out census data, you can eat shit and die. You know NOTHING about our constitutional rights and you should walk out in front of a bus and rid the population of your fucking stupidity! Fuck the census and fuck the government!
call came in "Census Bureau". Woman said she was with the U.S> Census Bureau. I also got calls from 520-798-4152
"Bureau Census" and 420-6029 "Census Bureau". They call early in the morning, all afternoon and as late as 9 p.m. I'm sick of them. They threaten to have you arrested if you don't answer their questions. This has been going on for the last two MONTHS. To hell with them and their questions.
Had a call from "census bureau" last week but it was a different number. I blocked the other number and now am receiving calls from this number. I will not comment to the "census bureau."
Irritated Vter Nov 12th, 2011
My phone number was for my cell phone. A voicemail was left, as follows:
This is the U. S. Census Bureau. Please return our call at 1-800-681-3012
and refer to case ID # *****. Our normal operating hours are 9 AM to 12 AM eastern standard time. Thank you.
I called the Census Bureau information phone number and was assured that the 800 number was the census bureau. I returned the call, and completed a survey for consumer price index purposes. Took about 6 to 7 minutes.
I filled out the stupid long form with the information that I thought was just way too personal. Now leave me alone and STOP calling. This is harassement.
Thanks for the backup, LMA, especially given your recent opinion of a more aggressive non-mandatory surveyor. What the Census considered a media campaign for the 2010 Decennial I think was limp and under-educating at best. Greg Biffle, Dick Gregory, and Donny Osmond aren't exactly A-list celebs for PSAs, merely cheaply obtained. I do however wish I could have played the Karl Rove clip for all the suspicious pseudo-patriots I met.
A major part of my job was not really taught in training, mainly being an objection handling ambassador for the Bureau with ready answers to all questions, including the definition of the WORD "census". The lack of civics education out there is alarming. Immigrants testing for citizenship know more about the Constitution than the average "real" American.
What's interesting now is all the news reports about our sad economic state and other key trends which cite fresh Census data. Thanks to the angry resistant types it will never be totally accurate, and those same door slammers will be the first to cry foul when their towns are shorted on Federal aid.
Resident47 Oct 24th, 2010
My father got a call from this number, income figures and names and addresses were all correct. The other end had a bad connection and said he would call us back. As far as we can tell, yes this really is the US Census Bureau.
Why does a census need to be conducted? Main reaon: Federal money. It goes towards roads, schools, Social Security, and social services in your community. It tells your Congressional representatives and state government how many live and work there. Don't blame the Feds if you don't know what a census does! Were you asleep the entire year and missed the PR campaign in the news and T.V. commercials?
Leavemealone Oct 23rd, 2010
Another unknown number calling me.
K. Rafferty Sep 21st, 2010
Since "roscoeyouidiot" and "skeptic" are the same person I will address "skeptic". Rosco was perhaps off topic but did not sound like a "moron" or a "useless idiot". I don't see why you're so steamed over a cut-pasted article from over a year ago anyway.
You'd like to assert "how much money the government is wasting on the census bureau"? Please do provide dollar amounts and cite sources. Tell us in what specific ways the often penny-pinching Bureau has wasted funds. Mind you, the decennial operation is ongoing at least through the end of August. No thanks to cranky "refuseniks" like you, it will be already a longer and therefore costlier job than should be necessary.
quote: "... information that can be found in a million different places."
Debatable ... Legislators, planners, realtors, historians, and many others who will depend on these data are not going to look in "a million places". Anyone in a research or survey position will tell you you don't just crib someone else's answers; they could be wrong. You go to a primary informant. That's you, and citizens of every household.
quote: "why do we need a census every ten years?"
Would you like one every five? Every fifty? How do you propose to track national trends?
roscoe is either a scammer or one of those useless idiots who work for the census bureau and is afraid of losing his worthless job because people don't give a crap about the waste of time filling out this piece of garbage.
if anyone is a moron, it's you. quote all the statistics you want...you forgot to mention how much money the government is wasting on the census bureau. the information they are asking for is information that can be found in a million different places. why do we need a census every ten years? as far as your statistics list, none of that information was gathered from a questionnaire, it's public knowledge. so before you call anyone a moron, look in the mirror, you pompous ass.
roscoeyouidiot Aug 03rd, 2010
Mr. "FED up" rattled:
" 'such manner as they shall by Law direct'.... That means they can direct the counting of the people, not take marketing, urban planning, or scientific surveys .... the founding fathers didn't intend for the government to intimidate us into answering just about any crazy question"
You apparently don't see how unspecific the law we've both quoted really is. It does not limit the scope of the Census to a head count and in fact grants Congress the power to expand that scope, as has been done from the very start in 1790. The first decennial census had multiple questions, not just one, and it was already classifying Americans by age, gender, and citizenship status.
Did a radical Revolutionary era focus group or covert British saboteur shoehorn in that provision? No, this was spearheaded by someone who was mentioned in that history class you slept through, lead architect of the US Census (and paid-full club member of the Founding Fathers) James Madison. In his words the Census was to be "extended so as to embrace some other objects besides the bare enumeration of the inhabitants ...." so to facilitate Congress to "make proper provision for the agricultural, commercial, and manufacturing interests ... in due proportion."
Hmm, sounds like the Fathers whose personal thoughts you are privy to had the foresight to use the census as a tool for regional long range planning. This saves money and time on a second survey and also means that business and government don't have to make wasteful guesses on every broad decision, which you would be certain to protest yet more loudly. Some of the data from the current ten-item Decennial are if fact required by Congress to assist in executing laws already in place.
Mr. "FED up" continued:
"If you come knocking on my door, Resident, asking ACS questions ... ask you to leave three times ... will probably just call the popo"
Firstly, I will not be conducting ACS at your door because I don't live near you and that is not the operation I trained for. I've already explained Decennial and ACS are separate. Second, thank you for returning that Decennial mail form and saving another $57-on-average visit. There is no "long form" as in 2000, and if you answered completely and honestly the only reason you'd be interviewed is for quality control or due to your form reaching the processor after the address lists were drafted.
Third, an enumerator is not going to threaten you or remain on property when angrily refused, not if he wants to keep his job. Fourth, I've already answered to "the po-po". A known nutjob farm owner, who remained hidden rather than confront me like an adult, called in a trespassing charge and disturbed my family. The instant I told the enforcer my job title he backed off in relief and ceased his inquiry.
But if you want to fold your arms and fly your "Don't Tread On Me" pennant, go right ahead, but don't cry later when allocated services and funds go someplace else, or you have a housing shortage, or your schools are teaching out of trailers, et cetera. Oh, and that enumerator, your neighbor with the same stake in the process as you, whose nose you sprain from a door slam might someday be asked to serve your food or notarize your papers or repair your window .... and might still wear the bruise.
"....Congress may have the Census conducted in "such manner as they shall by Law direct"...." That means they can direct the counting of the people, not take marketing, urban planning, or scientific surveys using my tax dollars, much less intimidate me.
If you come knocking on my door, Resident, asking ACS questions (sent the short form in the day I received it), I will politely ask you to leave three times in a row with the phone in my hand. If you threaten me or keep asking me questions, I will stand there and call the police to escort you off my property. If you're crazy enough to try your other 2 required visits, I will probably just call the popo when you place your shoe on my property.
IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT THEY WILL HOME VISIT ABOUT 1/3 OF THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T ANSWER THE ACS QUESTIONS ON THE PHONE, BUT you still don't have to answer the ACS survey if they already know how many people live in your home. Warn your children not to answer the door to these people.
um, Rosco, maybe you could explain how that article shows why the government needs to know if my kids are able to bathe themselves!?! Or if I "have serious difficulty seeing even when wearing glasses?" Guess that's just me being "paranoid" that the founding fathers didn't intend for the government to intimidate us into answering just about any crazy question a special interest group or university study could dream up.... oh yea, USING MY TAX DOLLARS TO DO SO!! They want to know if my 16 yo has served in the armed forces... shouldn't they already have a pretty good idea about this... and can a 16 YEAR OLD!?!
As a Census Enumerator I would like to add my somewhat limited wisdom. The Bureau conducts other surveys beyond the easy ten question decennial census operation currently running. Most famous is the very detailed American Community Survey, which can last for weeks and may ask for data some respondents find discomforting to reveal. Some of us in the field wish the Bureau would suspend all other surveys in a decennial year, as it creates confusion and annoyance when multiple Census personnel are knocking and calling in the same month for different purposes.
Tucson is home to one of the Bureau's Processing Centers, which jives with the origin of the number in question. If you're not convinced your caller is a sworn Federal employee, you may call a Center yourself and get the straight dope.
Messrs Sympha, John Q, and Bob H: (who may be the same person)
It's short fused types like you who make our job more difficult and thus more costly to you as taxpayers.
- Sympha, real Census personnel are not taught or authorized to intimidate or threaten anyone. If anything we are the ones usually _taking_ the guff.
- JQP, the lube brand you want (or don't want) is actually "K-Y". Asking about your product consumption is indeed not part of the decennial headcount, but may be part of one of the other surveys, none of which will identify you personally when the data is eventually used.
- Bob, I am extremely weary of those who quote only those parts of the Constitution which suit their chosen paranoia. It also stated from Day One that Congress may have the Census conducted in "such manner as they shall by Law direct".
The Constitution was composed by men smart enough to allow systemic flexibility, so the rules can change with the times without having to scrap the whole government. It's a shame you stiff-spined pseudo-patriots can't take a hint from that.
The following and more has been said elsewhere so I'll try to be brief. Collected data is used for statistical modeling, long range planning, and other research by your own local government, local realtors, local genealogists, and so on. You cannot expect good legislation without good data on demographics and trends. And, for the very last time, the Bureau does not bloody care what your name is and how you personally run your life. Only statistical data can be requested, and only for a valid reason. Under USC Title 13 data is locked so tight not even the FBI can see it. (Not for lack of trying; the Supreme Court once shot down their demands in a gavel pound.) This is not done so "THEY" can profit but so that YOU might get some help with that 'pursuity happy thing'. Spare us the fist-beating on your TV dinner tray meantime.
I answered when they called and they asked for my income. I hung up on them. As far as I know, the Census Bureau does NOT need to know my income. So, I do believe this number is part of some scam.
I'd like to report a possible scam phone call from this number. The lady called claimed she was calling from US Census Bureau. She gave me a totally wrong address and then asked me to correct her so that she can get my correct address. I tried to search this phone number from the US census bureau at http://www.census.gov/main/www/srchtool.html. I cannot find it.
this number calls over and over and never leaves a message. I filled out the form I wish they would stop this harassment
gaye benton Mar 20th, 2010
I have now been called twice and each time I tell them that I will not answer any questions that I feel are personal in nature they tell me that by law I have to answer the questions. I just hang up telling them that they have to show me their identification first then I hang up on them. Here is what a census as established by the constitution is for "The Constitution requires in Article I Section 2 that an "actual Enumeration" of the nation's population be made". All that they need to know is how many people a living in your home. Anything above that is what I would consider to be personal in nature and it is none of their or the government's business.
I would only answer questions like "How many people live here?" Questions like "What time do you leave for work?" don't have diddly-squat to do with a legit numeric Census count. And, why in the name of Jules Verne does anyone but my lover want to know if I buy K-J jelly? The Census Bureau has run their ship aground if they think that their wicked minds belong in my bedroom. Therefore I will treat their calls as if they are from scam artists...........because they ARE.
John Q. Public Jan 07th, 2010
Totally believe this is actually the Census Bureau. Only the government could want to know if I have running water in my house and when was the last time I bought jelly. Intend to f*ck with them to punish for their stupid attempts to intimidate / bully me. A case number: really. Scary. I'm quaking now. Hey Census Bureau f*ckwits: try a little courtesy instead of intimidation and I might deal with you. Treat me disrespectfully and, well, let's see how that works out for you.
@Rosco: Thanks Mr. Scammer!
Anti-Rosco Aug 10th, 2009
YOU SCAM THEORISTS ARE SO IGNORANT AND INFANTILE. ALL CENSUS BUREAU CALLS AND SURVEYS ARE COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE. MOST OF YOU WOULDN'T PAY YOUR TAXES OR WIPE YOUR ASSES IF WASN'T REQUIRED BY LAW OR STARTED STINKING AFTER A FEW DAYS. 2 WORDS FOR YOU PEOPLE- SLOTHFUL AND IGNORANT. THE ONLY PEOPLE TRYING TO SCAM YOU IS YOUR OWN FAMILY MEMBERS AND PEOPLE THAT CALL ASKING FOR YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND BANK ACCOUNT NUMBERS. BELOW IS THE RESULT OF WHY ONE OF THE MANY CENSUS BUREAU SURVEYS ARE CONDUCTED YOU IGNORANT MORONS.
WASHINGTON - Americans opened their wallets and pocketbooks a bit more in June, increasing their spending for the second straight month while saving a bit less, even as incomes fell sharply.
Consumer spending is closely watched because it accounts for about 70 percent of total economic activity. Many economists warned that despite the slight increase in June, falling wages and rising unemployment likely will keep spending sluggish for the rest of this year.
The Commerce Department said Tuesday that consumers boosted their spending 0.4 percent in June, slightly ahead of analysts' estimates. That comes after spending rose 0.1 percent in May.
Personal income fell 1.3 percent, the steepest drop in more than four years. Incomes rose by the same amount in May, boosted by one-time payments from the government. Economists expected personal incomes, the fuel for future spending, to fall 1 percent.
Incomes benefited in May from a one-time payment of $250 that was mailed to 50 million Americans receiving Social Security and other government benefits, as part of the Obama administration's $787 billion stimulus package.
Excluding the impact of the stimulus, personal income would have fallen 0.1 percent in June after a flat reading in May, the department said.
Wages and salaries fell 0.4 percent in June from May, the eighth straight monthly drop. That makes it unlikely consumers will ratchet up their spending anytime soon, economists said.
"The U.S. consumer will not be much of a help during the early stages of the economic recovery," Joshua Shapiro, chief U.S. economist at consulting firm MFR Inc., wrote in a note to clients.
Amid the longest recession since World War II, the personal savings rate has surged as Americans seek to rebuild their nest eggs after home values and stock portfolios plummeted last year. While saving can be good in the long run, rapid increases in saving can slow the economy.
The department said the personal savings rate fell to 4.6 percent in June, after jumping to 6.2 percent in May, which was the highest since February 1995. The rate dropped as low as 1 percent last year.
Spending may increase in July and August due to the government's "cash for clunkers" program, which has spurred thousands of Americans to trade in old cars for newer vehicles, Shapiro said. But the savings rate is likely to keep rising later this year.
Investors appeared unfazed by the economic report and focused on locking in some profits after a 14 percent climb in stocks since July 13. The Dow Jones industrial average and broader indices dipped slightly in morning trading.
The department also revised its spending and income data back to 1929, as it did last week when it reported second-quarter gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the economy's output. The changes show that Americans saved slightly more than previously thought.
For example, the department revised the savings rate in 2008 to 2.7 percent from 1.8 percent.
The government reported last week that the overall economy, as measured by the GDP, shrank at an annual rate of 1 percent in the second quarter, far less severe than the 6.4 percent decline in the first quarter and a 5.4 percent decline in the fourth quarter of 2008.
Sluggish consumer spending has held back the sales of food and beverage companies. Tyson Foods Inc., the world's largest meat producer, said Monday that sales fell 3 percent in its third quarter. The company posted a strong profit due to cost cuts.
And sales for MillerCoors, the U.S. joint venture owned by Molson Coors Brewing Co. and SABMiller, increased by only 1 percent in the most recent quarter, Molson Coors reported Monday.
Got call where they claim to be the census bureau. Do not like the approch or reason for the call.
My mother was a federal employee from 1966 to 86 and worked for the Census Bureau for the 1990 census. They didn't call for her help in the 2000 census probably because she passed on in 1999. Why call and leave just a voice mail and a case # now?
The call came from # 1 520-798-4152
and shows as being from the Tuscan, Arizona area. I'm in Michigan.
Reading these entries kinda freaks me out. If I don't answer these or call them back they'll physically send a rep to my residence? Creepy.
Census bureau is Federal Govt and they have 3 main call centers: Indiana, Arizon and Maryland. Various numbers for various surveys.
They do sometimes call cell phone numbers. Some survey are random digit dialing therefore you could be contacted on a cell phone.
Some surveys you do receive a letter before a visit or call others you don't again there are variables. Telephone number based surveys they don't always have
and address to send mailings to beforehand. Some surveys are addressed based, addresses/phone numbers change sometimes the information is not up to date.
Some surveys are categorized as being Mandatory others are voluntary and they always have to let you know if they are or aren't The one about buying jelly, sugar etc. Isn't Mandatory. It's for the Consumer Price index.
All these surveys have legitimate reasons for the questions being asked. Just watch the news or read your local papers. Anytime theres Statistics or
Govt and General information released this is where it usually starts.
Go to the website, it gives information on nearly every survey conducted.
i finally returned their call, stated us census bureau with 2 questions concerning our business health ins. which turned in to more questions, also stated would mail out a packet even tho i ask them not to i wasnt interested said would mail anyway, an they would also call to confirmed. stated i would have to tell the operator atleast twice i wasnt interested in doing any survery via mail before they would get it into their system...
I researched this number before returning call - I was satisfied w/ info at USCensus website that it was legit. Just to make sure I called, talked a minute - hung up - called again. Received a different operator that still had all my info in front of them. Asked detailed questions about the survey and received very specific and interesting answers about how info is used. Survey was actually only 5 minutes instead of 10 and very painless. Have you purchased sugar, jelly in last 2 weeks. Magazines. Your age. Basic stuff. Also - take note that although the survey is mandatory (they will send someone to your house if you do not respond) you do not have to answer any question you think is too personal and they will not force you to do so - they will mark your response as "personal". My operator was very friendly and I was very pleasantly surprised w/ the whole ordeal. They did mention I would get 2 more calls about 3 months apart after computers sort the data in my area and program new questions.
Claims to be Federal Government
Relentless. I asked to be put on the "do not call" list. The caller said, "This is the Census Bureau, we don't go on 'do not call lists.'"
Got call where they claim
to be the census bureau
These people call my house from various numbers all the time. I have reported it to the US Census Bureau. They say is it a survey required by law.
Mother's Day, Father's Day, Christmas Eve...all hours of the day. These morons are relentless. I have always believed that we are bound by civil law to respond to the Census Bureau, but somewhere in the big picture must be a harrassment law against this kind of intrusive non-stopping calling. I agree with others on this website...if you see this number on your caller ID, don't answer. They will NOT, however, stop bothering you or invading your privacy.
Said it was the "US Census Bureau" and that I should return their call and reference a case number. They've now called our house and our cell phone multiple times.
Usually they call me from 812.218.3144, twice today (Sunday). and just now from 520.798.4152. I got early info on how to deal with them........don't! Ignore everything. If I don't know the number I don't answer. If I get a message, it is earased. If, and sometime they will, they come to your house, don't answer the door.
I've now gotten apparent "Census Bureau" calls that originate in Indiana, Arizona, and Maryland. I'm suspicious, and they never leave a voice message. According to the U.S. Census Bureau's website, if you are selected to participate in a census survey, you will first receive a letter before they start calling you. I've never gotten a letter. Also, they're calling my cell phone number, which I have never provided on any government form.
My mom has been getting calls from this number every hour - every day. She told me they ask questions about whether or not she is still living alone, if anyone else is supposed to be living there, and other more personal questions that they have no right to ask. She told me a man came to her house and asked the same questions. She said he had a "Census Bureau" logo on the vehicle he was driving. I asked if she saw any kind of identification, but it wouldn't have mattered anyway. She can't see that well and trusts everybody. I am really afraid that she is being set up for something bad. I wish I had found out about it when it first started so I could begin investigating sooner. Has anyone else seen this vehicle?
The message on my answering machine says:
This is the United States Census Bureau. Please return our call at 1-800-681-3012
and refer to case I.D. xxxxxx
The man said I had been selected to learn about crimes in my area. Asked questions like Has anyone in your household had anything stolen from home, car, work etc in the last six months...
I just listened to the information he provided me. He had my name and address, but incorrect info on who lives at my house and what they do for a living.
Now he keeps calling to say that he has to ask my husband the same ezct questions, that I cannont answer them. I keep ignoring it.
I received a message on my machine this evening from the "United States Census Bureau" requesting that I return their call at 1-888-817-2153
. The lady leaving the message didn't even know their phone number by heart...there was a long pause. I'm concerned this is a scam.
Laura Kelleher Nov 02nd, 2006