How I wish I would not get any marketing or survey calls in the evening. This web page is great. I am glad that I was able to find it in the net. It helped me a lot in figuring out who this mysterious caller could be. He/She called twice but did not leave a message in my machine. I tried to call the number back but received a message that this mail box is currently full and will not take any more messages, goodbye. So I guess that is that. Keep up the good work people, I am sure that there are other people out there like me who are wondering who this person could be. THanks a lot really.
anti gay marriage group posing as a survey
I have received three calls from this number in Colorado. One was identified as "Dr. Dobson." The others were the same message but with another speaker. I will put this number in my blocked category. These are pushy and offensive! I am sorry these calls do not qualify for the Do Not Call list!
Push poll in a N.H. state senate election.
J. Sheehan Oct 28th, 2010
Resident47, I think there are a number of interesting topics here. The first is who are these folks? the subject of this thread. They are clearly normal political PACs acting because of the upcoming election. I agree it might be CCAdvertising because I also receive email from them. They received my contact info because of my activity in the 2008 election cycle.
Is it the same guys who did the small dog call? Maybe, I wasn't as good at identifying the voice.
So what was the small dog call about anyway? My best guess is that this was sort of a test question to check out their system and see who would respond to them. We do know for a fact that some of them did things like this in the previous election, they called in advance to see if the number is still good, if you answer the phone, or if the answering machine gets it. This way they are more effective when it comes to crunch time and they have to dial through their long list of numbers. Its just that there is no way to prove that that's what the curious small dog call was all about.
I do not believe that this is a phone billing scam, but its good the topic came up because people need to learn about these. There are two things a person can do. I actually had my telephone provider, ATT block ALL attempts at third party phone billing. But there is a problem with that. There are legit phone billing services, for example this is how many hospitals handle out-going phone calls when you are in the hospital. The other thing folks can do is to learn to carefully read their phone bill. Any of these special little charges will show up in their own section. Once people are familiar with their phone bill they will know where to check for these. Then its usually possible to get a refund.
It was sort of bad that some of the people in these threads claimed that you should say NO or shout something like "Turkey Feathers" because the scam is designed to get one to say yes. It doesn't even take a single call to push the button on you and generate a fraudulent phone bill on your telephone account. Other times its just a hang-up call or some other rouse. Receiving an unusual call may or may not be a clue that you are being targeted for a scam, always folks need to carefully check their bill or just block all third party phone billing.
And of course the whole subject brings up the National Do Not Call Act started in 2004 and amended in 2007. As somebody else mentioned, it only applies to telemarketing sales. The infamous Heather from Account Services calls were a blatant violation of that. But there are exceptions for almost everybody else. Political calls of any nature, surveys of any nature and charities. Also, anybody who does business with you. For example the guys who dump the phone book on your front door step can do a follow up call to make sure their contractors did indeed dump the phone book on your door step. If that's not bad enough, the laws only apply to calls originating from inside the US. Now days international calling is much cheaper, and VOIP makes it cheaper still. Some of the jerks who just love to do direct sales over the phone have already started doing this, and I suspect that telemarketing is about to make a comeback.
Prerecorded message, allegedly from the New Jersey governor. Didn't listened to the rest.
I was gone 3 days. Got 4 calls from these pond scum rat bastards.
An interesting and disturbing report, Dale. Service slamming is evidently on a comeback, made more efficient in the networked computer age. These "small dog" buggers have been so cagey in their methods it may take a critical mass of FTC complaints to halt them, as happened this Spring with three of the "Rachel/Heather" callers.
Resident47 Oct 26th, 2010
I don't know who these IDIOTS are, or what they want from us? Our # is on the DNC LIST, unlisted, and we have even blocked them, but they still keep calling. GET A LIFE U IDIOTS and leave us alone, don't care what u want, just GO AWAY !!!! MAKE IT STOP !!! They call all hours of the day, and night. Go bug some one who gives a Damn about what u are calling about, because we don't want any part of u!!!!!!!!
Called by them last night with election propaganda. I also received the call about a small dog and was asked political questions by the "small dog" guys on follow up calls. So it might be the same folks.
BTW, there are scams that can put charges on your phone bill, I was stung by one but my Phone Company got a refund. I talked to an investigator and here is what I found out. They don't need to trick you into an affirmative answer, all they need to push the button is your phone number and an account with somebody already set up to do phone company billing. Sometimes its just that simple, they generate charges for a short time and go away. Others are more clever, they will set up a sham, but legit service, could be a really bad 411 service, phone services for the deaf, whatever they think of. Then they actually call you so they have a record of it. Many of them will cheerfully refund any complaint, after all they want to appear legit, and most people don't catch the 4.99 charge. If they are ever really investigated they will use their list to say "Yes we did business with this party, here is the proof". If they really get investigated they will admit there is a problem with their system and agree to pay a fine. But the chances of true criminal prosecution and jail time are very remote.
The "small dog" calls are said to originate from ccAdvertising. They have previously used CID tags which resemble "l33t-speak" and odd abbreviations: "THINK SAY ACT 10", "YOUR PREF 2010", "P30PLE RSPNZ"
Some related WCU threads: 208-758-0218
Resident47 Oct 25th, 2010
The voice sounded like the same voice out of Colorado asking if we owned a small dog. Rumor has it that if you answer "yes", your personal "yes" is recorded and then used to confirm the purchase of some product or service. When you dispute it, it is difficult since it is your voice. This call also solicits a "yes." So, I blocked them
Left a message on my machine about it being a political survey & they'd call again. Blocked them.
LOL TWD ... yep its the Tea Party. That Dr Dobson guys is getting pretty old ... never occurred to me ... but now that I think about it...
These are political guys. National Do-Not-Call registry only applies to direct-sales telemarketing. The political hacks, charities and survey takers got themselves exempt from the Do-Not-Call bill and there is nothing we can do about not getting the calls.
But we can just not answer, hang up (if you have to answer for some reason) let the answering machine get it ... or otherwise just ignore them.
Here is the problem with listening to their message or answering any poll. They do things like run push-polls or fake polls. In one fake poll they do things like ask if you are against abortion. If you say you are they record the number and sell/trade it to their like minded buddies. Sometimes at the end of the poll you get a chance to donate for the cause you just said you supported. How convenient!!! It wasn't really a poll at all! That's why its always best to just ignore them.
we are on the do not call registry, wtf good is that when I have 22 calls fromt hese people and others in one day!
getting this call recently. I think it may be related to the upcoming election. I have caller Id, so I ignor it, but it can be annoying.