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Caller ID on Verizon wireless showed "World Travel". Google showed lots of reports about this number calling and offering a $1200 certificate to stay at one of their resorts in the Bahamas or wherever. Sounds like one of many vacation scams...go to the place, get high-pressured sales talks, and stay in less than prime setting unless you decide to sign up immediately for their resort/timeshare.
Maryland
 May 11th, 2017
800-322-5443 and 714-843-9999 and 714-847-4332 are the PhoneGuys. Website is www.phoneguys.com. These guys continuously SPAM websites like Craigslist, Backpage, Facebook, etc. We dealt with these guys once. Just once. They were a scam outfit claiming to sell a phone system between for $450-$490, but once they arrived they tried to push a $1200-$1900 phone system really hard and refused to take NO for an answer. Finally called the cops to have them removed from our property and to take their crappy phones with that. Claimed phones were NEW, yet were clearly USED. Staff/Owners are Andrew, Bob, and Mike. AVOID these guys at all costs.
Louisiana
 Apr 02nd, 2017
800-322-5443 and 714-843-9999 and 714-847-4332 are the PhoneGuys. Website is www.phoneguys.com. These guys continuously SPAM websites like Craigslist, Backpage, Facebook, etc. We dealt with these guys once. Just once. They were a scam outfit claiming to sell a phone system between for $450-$490, but once they arrived they tried to push a $1200-$1900 phone system really hard and refused to take NO for an answer. Finally called the cops to have them removed from our property and to take their crappy phones with that. Claimed phones were NEW, yet were clearly USED. Staff/Owners are Andrew, Bob, and Mike. AVOID these guys at all costs.
Louisiana
 Apr 02nd, 2017
800-322-5443 and 714-843-9999 and 714-847-4332 are the PhoneGuys. Website is www.phoneguys.com. These guys continuously SPAM websites like Craigslist, Backpage, Facebook, etc. We dealt with these guys once. Just once. They were a scam outfit claiming to sell a phone system between for $450-$490, but once they arrived they tried to push a $1200-$1900 phone system really hard and refused to take NO for an answer. Finally called the cops to have them removed from our property and to take their crappy phones with that. Claimed phones were NEW, yet were clearly USED. Staff/Owners are Andrew, Bob, and Mike. AVOID these guys at all costs.
Louisiana
 Apr 02nd, 2017
Posted something on facebook of large value (1200) responded within a few hours after i posted my item. Says someone will pick up from here in California but hes in Florida. is asking for my paypal email.
California
 Dec 20th, 2016
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Missouri
 Nov 26th, 2016
Joe Morgan called from this number acting like he was the irs and wanted me to pay $2900 but will settle for $1200 in itunes gift cards. Scam artists
Michigan
 Sep 22nd, 2016
Woman from the philipines called asking it's time to update your alarm system, I don't have one, never did. and had to have been a spoofed number as the area code said my local area, nobody had 145 as a prefix.
Usually I just don't answer these calls (I don't know the number) but we are expecting certain people to call and I don't know their phone number, so now it's blocked. with t lock call blocker, it allows me to block 1200 + phone numbers, I don't even hear the phone ring if it's blocked, but the screen lights up (phone) and doesn't allow them leave a message, (unlike my cell phone blocker, dang it).
fdupwtelemarketers
 Apr 16th, 2016
04-08-2016 Received a bill today with this # for over $1200.00 for a supposed medical account for a location that I have never been treated at. I called number listed (305-777-7100) and after many rings a male answered and just said Hello. I asked who this was and he momentarily hesitated; then loudly stated "GOD" and hung up.
NC
 Apr 08th, 2016
Merchant Funding Group, 515 S FLOWER ST STE 1200, LOS ANGELES CA 90071.

Calls our do-not-call listed number as private caller. Recorded message promises biz loan in two days up to 250.000 dollars. Talked Miguel who gave me this number. When I asked him to remove us from his list, he became nasty quickly, and said he had given me a false call back number. Soo, thank you Miguel at Merchant Funding Group for being dishonest and misleading.
Pete
 Feb 22nd, 2016
English Towing
1200 N Crafford St, Bushnell, IL, 61422
(309) 333-0593

Call now for a towing service!

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Bardoplh

www.englishtowing.com
Varna Bulgaria
 Dec 14th, 2015
Cheek and Zeehandelar
Zeehandelar, Sabatino & Associates, LLC
471 E Broad St Fl 18, Columbus, OH 43215
614-229-3888
(614) 458-1200
(614) 241-5865
614-422-4016
Cheek & Zeehandelar has engaged in misleading and deceptive business practices in violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1692 et seq. (“FDCPA”), and Ohio’s Consumer Sales Practices Act, Ohio Revised Code (“O.R.C.”) § 1345.01 (“CSPA”). In particular, Plaintiffs allege that Cheek & Zeehandelar seeks to garnish or attach the property of Ohio consumers who have defaulted on credit and loan agreements, without having first investigated the nature of the debtors’ property to determine if it is legally exempt from garnishment or attachment…
2015 http://classactiondefense.jmbm.com/stewart_class_action_defense_cert_ord.pdf
Ohio
 Nov 17th, 2015
Cheek and Zeehandelar
Zeehandelar, Sabatino & Associates, LLC
471 E Broad St Fl 18, Columbus, OH 43215
(614) 229-3888
(614) 458-1200
614-241-5865
614-422-4016
Cheek & Zeehandelar has engaged in misleading and deceptive business practices in violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 U.S.C. § 1692 et seq. (“FDCPA”), and Ohio’s Consumer Sales Practices Act, Ohio Revised Code (“O.R.C.”) § 1345.01 (“CSPA”). In particular, Plaintiffs allege that Cheek & Zeehandelar seeks to garnish or attach the property of Ohio consumers who have defaulted on credit and loan agreements, without having first investigated the nature of the debtors’ property to determine if it is legally exempt from garnishment or attachment…
2015 http://classactiondefense.jmbm.com/stewart_class_action_defense_cert_ord.pdf
Cleve
 Nov 17th, 2015
Yet another FOP number that I have blocked. I have told them I am not interested in donating. I say send me something in writing. Nothing ...but they keep these annoying calls coming all times of the day. I block one number they call from another until I block that one. Do they think I am going to donate if they keep calling from different numbers? Because of these annoyances, I would never donate a dime to them. I have purchased a 1200 number call blocker just for them. Most of the blocked calls are FOP.
Maryland
 Jul 21st, 2015
402-934-0759 just called our business. Caller ID shows up as SELECT VEHICLE. This is nothing more than a boiler room filled with monkeys with scripts calling people they find on Craigslist and offering to help them sell their Car, Boat, RV, Truck, SUV, 4 Wheeler, Motorcycle, etc, for the small sum of $499 to $699 or more. When an ad is placed on Craigslist and it is located under the For Sale By Owner section, within the ad it clearly states : do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers. Guess what your company just did, Select Vehicle? Your company not only ignored that personal request, but it also violated the rules governing the use of the Craigslist website, as well as violating Federal Laws (see the DNC, the Do-Not-Call Improvement Act of 2007, the TCPA, and 47 CFR 64.1200; 16 CFR 310). As such, we will be filing a formal complaint with the FCC, the FTC, the BBB, and the AG's office in regards to your illegal actions.
Not Important
 Jul 14th, 2015
Verizon now spoofing calls to get you to "enroll" in their call blocking service for an additional 12.95 a month... 155.40 a year.... to block calls from your phone... Gee Verizon... on 'mazzon I have seen 1200 number call blockers for ~ 65.00 that last years.. Why would I pay you DOUBLE to do the same thing?
screwloosefancyfree
 Jul 03rd, 2015
Mechanical Innovation LLC
1200 Pine Dr., Edmond, OK, 73034
(405) 973-7675

Mechanical Innovation LLC provides its customers with the best in commercial and residential heating, cooling and ventilation service. We service the Edmond, OK area since many years and we are open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

HVAC Repair, Commercial Heating, Commercial Air Conditioning Repair, Air Conditioning Company, Heating Repair Service

http://mechanicalinnovationsvc.com/
Harvey
 May 14th, 2015
Texture 7 Salon
9912 E Grand River Ave 1200, Brighton, MI, 48116
(810) 225-2435
hair styling, manicure , pedicure, Hair care
Hair Care Salon, Beauty Salon & Spa, Hair Styling, Hair Service, Day Spa

http://texture7salon.com/
Bulgaria
 Jan 13th, 2015
Calls saying they are a law firm and have serious allegations against you. Then you speak to a "Mr. John" in legal who informs you that their client is willing to settle with you for $1200.00, but only if you pay today before close of business. Otherwise, they will send the police to your residence to serve you with court papers and or arrest. 1. The police don't arrest people for civil accusations. 2. By law, they have to provide a debt letter stating to whom you owe the debt and the amount. 3. Phone threats are illegal. 4. Why would a law firm have a "legal dept." ? SCAM ALERT!!!!!!
stop
 Dec 17th, 2014
-aka- 561-314-2692 -aka- 866-220-1051 -aka- 866-466-1712 -aka- 866-647-0506 -aka- 866-798-2489 -aka- 866-942-2489 -aka- 877-298-2489 -aka- 877-305-2489 -aka- 877-798-2489 just called our business for the 8th time this week. We tell them that we are not interested, and yet they keep calling. Caller ID shows up as City Twist. Their company name is City Twist. They are located at 1200 N Federal Hwy #417, Boca Raton, FL 33432. They are connecting through Bellsouth Telecommunications via Peerless Network Landline. Their BBB rating is somehow and A+ and is located here - ( http://www.bbb.org/south-east-florida/business-reviews/advertising-agencies-and-counselors/citytwist-in-boca-raton-fl-90033448 ) Since they have called repeatedly after asking for them to remove our business from their calling list, we are now left with no choice but to report their calls as harassment to the BBB, the FCC.gov, and the Boca Raton Attorney General's Office.
Not Important
 Sep 19th, 2014
Yes, it's Conn's. These people are just what the name implies - con's! They call numerous times a day, is there a law against that? You tell them it is in the mail, or you will bring it in on Friday and they STILL call umpteenth times every day until you do. Don't buy anything from them no matter how good a deal you think you are getting. Paying 1200.00 for a 549.00 refrigerator. If paid off early - 829.00. DON'T DO IT!
Texas
 Jun 20th, 2014
9:19AM CST - Amazing they bypassed my answer machine and got on my voice mail leaving a message about updating my medical insurance. Why? Don't know. We live in Florida and this number is from Maryland? Again they didn't ask for anyone by name but the message beginning was cut off so it may have been prerecorded and didn't respond until after the answer machine turned off. Johns Hopkins University Clinical Practice Association Phone: 410-933-1200 Toll Free: 800-657-0066. Maybe just a wrong number. We do have friends, hustlers and other relatives in that state.
K in FL
 May 09th, 2014
They left recorded msg on answering machine claiming a "free" emergency alert system including $1200 worth of equipment and installation. Then they try to "make it legal" by giving you a chance to remove your name from their calling list. They aren't supposed to be calling in the first place!
Illinois
 Apr 18th, 2014
Same story here from California - Kevin Cooper, Jeff Miller, tax fraud, deportation. I called and told them I knew it was a scam - then when I called back they wouldn't answer from that phone! So I called from my cell and chatted a bit. Got this address: 1200 Waters Place, Bronx, NY 10461. Called the Bronx Police Dept but they said they can only investigate if someone actually sends money. I'm calling the IRS next.
California
 Mar 13th, 2014
8323565089: Guy, says his name is Rob Walker at this number text me saying he wanted to buy my boat. Said he put $33,500 in PayPal to pay for the boat, sent all kinds of "official" looking PayPal documents, but no funds received. In order to complete the PayPal transfer, I simply needed to send $1200 to his "purchasing agent".
Dan
 Jan 14th, 2014
Called twice - 8:05 a. m. and again at 8:10 a.m. - number is now blocked. I understand now why many people are dropping land lines. I understand there are apps for smartphones and other options to help prevent unwanted jackasses from calling your private number. The National Do Not Call Registry is a joke. I have a Call Blocker with a 1500 capacity - I am already past 1200 numbers blocked and counting!
Dave
 Dec 14th, 2013
This Guy texted & called me from 1200 am to 200 leaving obscene messages & pornographic pics. Who can I report him to other than the police?
anna garcia
 Nov 28th, 2013
They say they are Barker, Healey & Associates. I am out $1200.
Susan
 Nov 27th, 2013
Company Name: Los Angeles Bel Air Limo
Address: 1200 E 14th St, Los Angeles, CA 90021
Phone: 310-504-2765
Affordable and reliable limousine services! Call us now!

http://labelairlimo.com/
Ted
 Oct 14th, 2013
Said they were with a home alarm company and wanted to offer me a $1200 alarm system at no cost. I told them I already had an alarm system and I was reporting them since I am on the Do Not Call list and they should not be calling my number.
Susan
 Oct 01st, 2013
Paris Landscaping
Address: 1200 S Lake St, Montgomery, IL 60538
Phone: 6308929297
Website: http://parislandscapers.com

Family owned company since 1998. Proudly served Montgomery area. Call us if you need lawn care or landscaping services.
landscaping design, fencing, mowing, hardscapes, lawn maintenance, mulch sales, sell plants
Landscaper, Landscape Designer, Landscape Contractor, Lawn Care, Lawn Maintenance
Fred
 Sep 24th, 2013
The Pro Call Blocker shown below is a wonderful product. It can block up to 1200 calls and any number within a specific area code. They usually go for around $30 on ebay.
ziggys dad
 Aug 30th, 2013
If you get a call from 419 asking for someone else and you happen to be in Ohio, it may be the United Collection Bureau. I called them at (614) 263-1200 (I had to listen to the message even though the message says if I continued listening I acknowledged I was someone else. That was literally the only way I could find out who the hell kept calling).
Guy
 Aug 19th, 2013
Drywall Mudhogs
Address: 155 Estates Dr, Kerrville, TX 78028
Phone: 8308953559
Website: http://drywallmudhog.com/

A Drywall Mudhog should be on every drywall job. Whether it be residential or commercial, the Drywall Mudhog will benefit your business. Prices: $1200.00 each, including shipping
Drywall, tape float and texure,
Drywall, Drywall Company, Drywall Painter, Dry Wall Service, Dry Wall Contractor
Fred
 Aug 13th, 2013
Gentleman called from this number today, asked for someone who retired many, many years ago, so not sure where they're getting their information. They keep calling asking for this individual. He wasn't exactly rude...but not very forthcoming either.

Here is their company information:
Chicago Headquarters
105 W. Madison, Suite 1200, Chicago, Illinois 60602
Phone: 312-529-7000 | Fax: 312-529-7001

Charles Botchway, C.E.O
Phone: 312-529-7000
Email: cbotchway@madisonstreetcapital.com
Anthony Marsala, C.O.O
Phone: 312-529-7000
Email: amarsala@madisonstreetcapital.com
Ian Dolby, Managing Director
Phone: 312-529-7000
Email: idolby@madisonstreetcapital.com
kaileena
 Aug 06th, 2013
I receieved a call at my employer yesterday from this wanting to know the policies on how to serve me at work. I was baffled because I was not aware I was in any kind of danger of being sued or anything. I spoke w/ a guy who acted like they have done all this investigation on me and told me they have already try to serve me once at my home. Stated he even knew I had a large property, he had my name last 4 of my social, who my car loan was with and a few other things. This had me terrifed as he said they were suing and were going to freeze/levy my bank account. After much research and a nights lost of sleep I have figured this out.... A collection agency can get all that information very easily, name social and who you have have loans with its all on your credit reort. As for him saying the server told them I had a large property, any body can look up my address and know that I live on 2 acres. They can not freeze your accounts or levy them without a court judgement. I checked the courts here, there is nothing against me. As for serving me papers they did not show. I will admit I do have an old debt that written off by the cc company about 5 years ago. This company bought the debt recently and is harrassing me for it apparently. Funny thing is the debt was only a couple of hundred dollard and they were asking for a near 2700.00 but I could settle for 1200.00. DO NOT GIVE YOUR MONEY RIGHT AWAY TO THESE PEOPLE. They are scammers for a large amount of money. Do your research first and dont loose sleep like I did.
jamie2769
 Jun 28th, 2013
These people are a pain in the neck (or Lower) they call me everyday at least 2x a day trying to get me to pay a debt that is over 7 years old that has been sold and re-sold to different collection companies.....It was originally 1200 dollars and they want 4800 now....GOOD LUCK GETTING IT!!!!
Dan
 Jun 20th, 2013
Tey were trying to collect money saying they were investagotors on check fraud, when i looked up th number they are a collection agency, I want them to be blocked from my phone. Please,,,,,,They have really upset saying they have a mediator sais they were going to wave the procession fee of 1200 and needed me to send 150.oo by money gram until i paid back 786.00,This acc has been sold 5 times. please beaware of this if they call you..........
Ritta
 Jun 12th, 2013
Verizon called me back I did not pick up the call. I disconnected the call after having an argument and being lied to by one of their tech support people. In the Prepaid cell dept. I worked for Alltel for 10 years I know what's what and when the BS is getting chest deep its time to pull the plug. I will not be lied too after spending 25 minutes waiting to speak to a person to have that person read a script and not even listen to what I am telling her the problem is. I know what the matter is, and she could not even be bothered to take the time to listen to what I told her the problem was, just kept reading her script and going down the line, next step, then do this, if it does not work try this. FOr the love of the Anti-Christ I used to write those scripts for idiots to use in call centers the ones that can't think for themselves. Verizon has the worst customer support for prepaid services ever. And tries to get you to buy a new phone and sign a contract that will solve all your problems just like magic. Spend more money with there company and all your problems go away. Never mind that they own your butt for 2 years and you're screwed and the customer service gets even worse after that. They deny saying it will all get better. Sprint pulled the same thing too, not to mention overcharging for services and then threatening the state with if they persecuted them that they would close all there call centers terminate 1200 employees in KS. I think I will come up with a way to give away Cell phone service, Internet, other services for free for every person on the planet for life. Make it all free all of the time. Stand back and watch them all come crashing down around themselves. A couple of simple SAT's and cheap towers Solar powered and cheap switching making its own bubble or network like global wifi networks only cell phone services via Sat phones and they are all done for. No more pigs getting rich off screwing everyone.
Anone 785
 May 23rd, 2013
Was on the phone (I made the call) and another call came in while I was on the phone at 5:39pm; therefore, no Caller ID to identify who might be calling me. Phone number 570.218.1200 called (per my voice mail). Here's part of the message I received: "... all the details of generating a weekly income of $3-7,000 a week or press 9 to be removed from our list. Press 1 now." Don't know what they were selling/scamming and since my voice mail doesn't know how to press buttons, I'll never know. But how annoying! I'm on the DNC list! Will be filing a complaint with them next.
Gina
 May 23rd, 2013
The phone call is from a representative of admissions of Spring Arbor University "Their real phone number: (517) 750-1200" and wanted to talk about enrollment to the college.

Spring Arbor University is a Christian institution of higher education located in Spring Arbor, Michigan, in the United States. SAU is affiliated with the Free Methodist Church.

Address: 106 E Main St, Spring Arbor Township, MI 49283
ARwasMY
 May 17th, 2013
i got a call saying that if i send $825 i would get a $5000 loan from CITIZEN INVESTMENT GROUP it sounded legit and they sent the loan agreement to my email so i sent the money thru western union and they said the money would be in there that day. turns out they said before they send the loan they do a second credit check and since i was a high risk client i had to send an insurance payment of 750, i said thats too much so he said to he would talk to his manager and they "settled" on sending 450. i sent the 450 and now they dont answer any calls. im out 1200 plus the cost of western union sending fees. anyone with more info please write back. http://www.nobledrugstore.com
arsakristen
 Mar 06th, 2013
http://www.debt.org/ is really LIBERTY DEBT MARKETING, LLC Wilmington DE, US Here is their BBB page http://www.bbb.org/delaware/business-reviews/ ... ton-de-32003800 Additional Phone Numbers 407-434-0752(Phone) 877-740-4831(Phone) Liberty Debt Marketing Liberty Debt Marketing aka Debt.org 1000 N. West St., Suite 1200 #907 Wilmington, DE 19801 They are also this company http://www.bbb.org/central-florida/business-reviews/marketing-programs-and-services/global-marketing-group-of-central-florida-in-melbourne-fl-4002171 Be sure to file complaints
hatescumbags
 Jan 24th, 2013
Called my cell phone, have no idea how they got my number. Telemarketer congratulating me on winning a $1200 home security system. He had badly broken english, I said "no thank you" and hung up.
Carol
 Dec 28th, 2012
Have had several people call from this number. Main two I spoke with last are Jena and Mason, and was informed of a John Deer lawn mower that I registered for in the Colonial Mall in Greenville, NC, but was also chosen to win a free $1200 GE security system. Callers want to know why it hasn't been installed. I've told several callers I was not interested. Yesterday I even set up an appointment for an installer to come today (12/20), but never showed up, not even a phone call to explain. I've tried calling this number numerous times today and tonight, and only get a busy signal. It's amazing you register for something and others get old of your information and then can't be reached back.
Belinda Otis
 Dec 21st, 2012
Dix Floor Covering
900 S Nancy Ave East Wenatchee WA 98802
(509) 884-1200
http://www.dixfloorcovering.com/

With 35years of experience Dix Floor Covering offers customers in East Wenatchee, WA quality services - tile and stone work, remodeling, concrete work and more.
Services: Tile contractor, Tile and Stone, Floor Covering, Kitchen Remodeler, Bathroom Remodeler
Lenard
 Nov 27th, 2012
Gifford Woodworking

1200 Holders Ln, Zanesville, OH 43701
(740) 454-3780

www.giffordswoodworking.com

Every project is treated with special care and carried out to precise specifications. We believe our work should speak for itself. Services: Kitchen remodeling, Kitchen Remodeler, Cabinets, Woodworking, Cabinet Maker
Tim
 Nov 23rd, 2012
Merril Field Upholstery
1200 East 76th Avenue, Anchorage, AK 99518
(907) 276-2002
http://merrillfieldupholstery.com/
Upholstery Services, Upholstery Shop, Upholstery Cleaning, Upholstery Cleaning Service, Upholstery Repair
Roice
 Oct 30th, 2012
To Resident47: I have to question your comment. You are the only person legitimizing this company. Multiple sites and personal experience have shown me that this company is what is known as a zombie debt collector. They stole over $1200 from my mother in law, a little old lady who lives on her social security. They convinced her she owed a debt over 5 years old from a company that she does not remember nor has any recent history of being in business. FRAUD!
Marie
 Oct 30th, 2012
Surely you realize the republicans are farming U.S. jobs outside of the U.S, including but not limited to Information Technology jobs, Financial Sector jobs and any other job they can push overseas. If you call IBM, HP, Avaya or Aquin/Princeton Financial services as examples, the person on the other end of the phone is not in the U.S. Those same overseas employees have access to your private financial information and the companies overseas don't begin to enact the same data network security requirements, legally required in the U.S., meaning that anyone can hack those systems and access your financial data and at some point electronically empty your bank account. The employees are also not paying U.S. income tax, since they are not U.S. citizens, thereby eroding our tax base further and increasing the deficit. The republicans don't want the ultra wealthy to pay more and they farm the middle class jobs overseas, so that leaves no one to pay off the deficit created by two wars (at the cost of 7 billion per month per John MCain's own mouth) and the cost of the global financial meltdown caused by the U.S. republican policy of 'less government' meaning, 'let the ultra wealthy', like Mitt Romney steal legally with no one watching or regulating what they are doing. So the ultra wealthy get richer, while you get poorer. So not sure why you would support unpatriotic policies like that. 'Corporate' welfare costs this country 1000 fold more then what some low income person down on their luck or scamming the sytem costs us. The tea party and conservative working class men support policies that cost them thousands of dollars per year compared to the scammers cost of penny's on the dollar. I don't like paying for scammers either, but I resent the ultra-wealthy thieves who don't need to scam more so then some poor manipulative guy who doesnt begin to cost us as much as the deregulated corporations have cost us. There are 1200 billionaires in this country who collectively are worth 4.7 trillion dollars. It doesn't seem to me, that they will be hurting that much if we tax corporations for farming jobs overseas to make up for the lost tax base, or better yet, keep the jobs over here and retian the income tax base. It is hard to understand why anyone would support Mitt Romney and the republican party who will just continue to eliminate American jobs and as a result, the employees income tax. If you are not one of the 1200 U.S. billionaires, I recommend you re-think any support for the republicans, because you may be the next person who loses out when the economy continues to spiral downward, as government deregulation causes U.S jobs to disappear. I'm not an isolationist and understand the merits of a global economy, but the repbulicans have dismantled our American way of life through extreme deregulation and 'less government' and are turning this country into a third world country of extreme wealth and extreme poor and no one in the middle. The United States is a country, it is not a business, we need to run it like a country not a business. Unless of course we want virtual police and fireman (i.e. not in person, but remote over the internet - they can walk you through stopping a fire or acosting a burglar over the phone) and we could always subcontract our military and weapons development to the Chinese government. Why we could even not have politicians, we could have the Chinese and Indian governments govern us. Of course, the Chinese can't even make proper pharmaceuticals without screwing it up, so it would be interesting to see how much more of a mess they could create in this country. So vote republican and that is what you will have to look forward to.
Christine D.
 Oct 09th, 2012
they called me after I filled out cash advance papers online than I paid close to 1200 dollars to get my loan borrowing from other friends and now I'm screwed
damon boston
 Sep 29th, 2012
We ordered several ink and toners and did receive a brand new ipad 3. We were not scammed. There was a minimum order of $1200 but we exceeded that and the ink and toner lasted longer than the brand name. I am however receiving these irritating calls since then.
R Layman
 Sep 27th, 2012
Hey Matthews.
I pay my bills. The reason I have medical in collections is between 2008 and 2011 - my company did not offer health insurance and I am a contractor with a pre-existing condition. For me to have purchased insurance from a special pool for "High Risk Patients" because of the pre-existing condition - it would have costed more than $1200 a month for limited services which I cant afford. During that time I started to have alot of problems related to that initial condition with ddd, a failed fusion from 2002, spinal stenosis and on and on. There were times where I had no choice but to go get treatment or risk being paralyzed.One visit to the ER encompasses 4 seperate bills that I can only pay a certain amount at a time. Then the episodes became more and more frequent and was admitted to the hospital for 2 days at $22,000 total bill. I dont make a ton of money and cannot take a second job because of the injuries. So my medical debt was uncontrollable through nobodies fault. I even sent letters to the Govenoner of TN to help. He responded and apologized for my situation and was referred to TENCARE - which will not cover a working single male.Long story short. I needed surgery or I would risk not being able to walk again. I begged and begged my employer to make a special exception in my case to put me on the company policy even though I was a contactor to have the necessary surgey - and because of my hard work, loyalty, honesty and character - they put me on the policy. And I had my surgery and I am still in alot of pain - but doing better - thank you. And paying what I can to those old bills and my child support and my taxes and my insurance (health/auto/life/renters) and my rent and the extras that my children need, it will take me a lifetime to pay those medical bills off. And as a result my 97% of the negative item on my credit report are medical collections, and I have to suffer with the results of that - by having to pay higher interest rates on used car - having to have a secured credit card because of the collections and so on - I accept my plight - even though it is not my fault - I make the best of it day to day. So, before you spout off with the general statement of people not paying their bills and labeling them as pieces of sh**, you need to see and feel my story and my pain. And if I could meet you face to face you would be sorry you ever opened your stupid mouth.
LLH
 Sep 14th, 2012
Beverly's Dog Grooming Salon
8831 Ridgeland Avenue Oak Lawn, IL 60453

(708) 430-1200
http://bevsdoggrooming.com/

Dog grooming & washing for over 25 years in the area of Oak Lawn IL
Pet Groomer, Pet Grooming, Dog Grooming, Groomer, Dog Washing
Awer
 Sep 05th, 2012
Michael J. Adams PC is a Texas collection law firm located in San Antonio. The law firm routinely files collection lawsuits for creditors. Our office has defended many collection lawsuits brought by Michael Adams. Their office has been known to represent the following creditors:

Troy Capital LLC
Advantage Assets II
American Express Centurion Bank
American Express Bank FSB
Global Acceptance Credit Company
GE Money Bank

Michael J. Adams PC San Antonio Address
Michael J. Adams PC
300 E Sonterra Blvd, Bldg 1 Ste 1200
San Antonio, Texas 78258
Phone: 210.858.8360
Fax: 210.858.8350

Credit card lawsuits in Texas are very common. If you do not respond to the lawsuit a judgment will likely be entered against you.

If you have been sued by Michael J. Adams PC please contact our office for a FREE consultation and to discuss what options you may have.

We charge FLAT FEES to defend credit card lawsuits and we have payment plans for as low as $250.00 per month.

For further information please view our Sued for Debt in Texas page and be sure to read our client testimonials.

Recent results for our Michael J Adams PC cases:
1) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer.
Plaintiff: GE Money Bank
Court: Tarrant County Justice Court Pr. 2
Case No: J516733
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.

2) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer
Plaintiff: Advantage Assets II Inc.
Court: Harris County Justice Court 5-1
Case No: cv51c0090903
Law Firm: Michael J. Adams, PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.

3) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer
Plaintiff: Advantage Assets II, Inc.
Court: Galveston County Justice Court 1-1
Case No: J10110026
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.

4) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer
Plaintiff: Advantage Assets II, Inc.
Court: Galveston County Justice Court 1-1
Case No: J10110026
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.

5) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer.
Plaintiff: American Express Centurion Bank
Court: Fort Bend County Court at Law No. 4
Case No: 10CCV042844
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: We negotiated a confidential settlement prior to trial.

6) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer.
Plaintiff: American Express Bank, FSB
Court: Medina County Court at Law
Case No: 2731
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: We negotiated a confidential settlement prior to trial.

7) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer.
Plaintiff: American Express Centurion Bank
Court: Tarrant County Court No. 3
Case No.: 10-80617-3
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: We negotiated a confidential settlement prior to trial.

8) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer
Plaintiff: Arrow Financial Services LLC
Court: Harris County Justice Court 5-2
Case No: CV52C0286146
Law Firm: Michael J. Adams, PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.

9) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer.
Plaintiff: Discover Bank
Court: Harris County Justice Court 1-2
Case No: CV12C0096180
Law Firm: Michael J. Adams, PC
Outcome: We tried the case and won a take nothing judgment against the creditor.

10) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer.
Plaintiff: Discover Bank
Court: Harris County Court at Law No. 3
Case No: 942184
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.

11) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer.
Plaintiff: Discover Bank
Court: Harris County Justice Court 5-2
Case No: CV52C0288588
Law Firm: Michael J. Adams, PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.

12) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer.
Plaintiff: FIA Card Services, N.A.
Court: Harris County Court #2
Case No.: 1000223
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: We negotiated a confidential settlement prior to trial.

13) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer.
Plaintiff: FIA Card Services, N.A.
Court: Harris County Justice Court 5-2
Case No: CV52C0317989
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.

14) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer
Plaintiff: Midland Funding, LLC
Court: Harris County Court at Law No. 3
Case No: 934427
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.

15) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer
Plaintiff: Troy Capital, LLC
Court: Harris County Justice Court 5-2
Case No: CV52C0304699
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.

16) Situation: Our client was sued by a debt buyer
Plaintiff: Troy Capital LLC
Court: Bexar County Justice Court Pr. 3
Case No: 30-C-11-00011-01
Law Firm: Michael J Adams PC
Outcome: The plaintiff voluntarily dismissed their case prior to trial.



We would be happy to answer any additional questions that you may have.

Call now before there is a judgment! 800-220-4318
RoninMD
 Aug 06th, 2012
Debt Collector - Tries to collect old debts past statute of limitations

http://www.newsunrisemanagement.com/files/Amex-Michael%20J%20Adams-judgment-35%20per-7090.pdf

Michael J. Adams, P.C.
Contact information:

Michael J. Adams, P.C.
Attorneys at Law
300 E. Sonterra blvd.
Building 1, Suite 1200
San Antonio, Texas 78258

210-858-8360 Tel.
877-223-5462 Tel. Toll Free

210-858-8350 Fax
877-240-5467 Fax Toll Free

michaeljadamspc.com
RoninMD
 Aug 02nd, 2012
Kamps Building & Remodeling
1200 Tom Mede Drive, Beaver Dam, WI 53916
http://www.kampsremodeling.com/
Established in 2008, Kamps Building & Remodeling, LLC provides construction and remodeling services to Beaver Dam and surrounding areas. Quality & Service Beyond Your Expectations.
Residential and Light Commercial Service, New Homes, Home Additions, Kitchen Remodeling, Bathroom Remodeling, Window Remodeling, Siding Services, General Contracting and More.
Adam
 Jul 13th, 2012
Received calls four times during week (4/30-> 5/4/2012) Two calls occured within fifteen minutes of 1200 PDT and twice more around 8:17pm PDT. Background noise is detected. No voice acknowledgement from the caller occurs.
Mystified
 May 04th, 2012
"We can give you $1200.00 rebate on a security system"
LL
 Mar 14th, 2012
Calls from NRA:
10/22/11 - #877-859-3653
10/21/11 - #855-348-2371
10/20/11 - #855-333-0712
10/19/11 - #877-858-4958
10/18/11 - #855-232-9534
10/15/11 - #855-348-2371
10/12/11 - #855-333-0712
10/11/11 - #703-267-1200
I have been a member of NRA for many years. I have supported them by recruiting members, contributions, volunteering at NRA events, etc. I cancelled my membership yesterday. I refuse to be a member of any organization that uses telemarketers to harass people. I called their member services and sent them a message saying so.
pwr
 Oct 22nd, 2011
Claim of $1200 towards "energy management system". No company name was ever provided. It was clearly a stock recording. Living in a townhouse I've never expressed any interest in this to anyone so it's not a preexisting business relationship either.
Bear Giles
 Oct 12th, 2011
Recorded message claims to be Verizon Wireless. Says $1200 owed today or service will be terminated. Actually has prompts to let pay over the phone. Verizon confirms I do not owe anything. BEWARE!!
Dee
 Sep 16th, 2011
SCAM!!! Claims to be Verizon wireless. Calling private home number. Every time they say we must pay $1200 THAT DAY or service will be terminated. Verizon said nothing is owed.
Dee
 Sep 16th, 2011
Eastgate - Martial Arts America Cincinnati
960 Kennedys Landing, # 6 Cincinnati, OH
482 Reedy Street, Cincinnati, OH 45202
Main Phone: (513) 753-1200
www.maududo.com
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&georestrict=input_srcid:9d8b2aec663e6272
Since 1983, Martial Arts America has been providing instruction in the martial arts. If you are a visitor, this site is designed to direct you to one of our seven convenient locations.
Michael Franzen
 Jul 18th, 2011
Spammers. They don't care if your phone is on Do Not Call list, they violated every clause in FCC rules (including 47 CFR Sec. 64. 1200) Somebody should take them to court.
george
 Apr 25th, 2011
Scam call. "you just won a honeywell security system, for free!" Oops, they forgot to tell you that by accepting this "$1200" package (which you could buy for $235 elsewhere) that you have obligated yourself to a $65/month monitoring fee, that automatically renews annually, and has an "early" cancellation fee of over $400 no matter when you try to cancel.
Irritaged
 Apr 11th, 2011
YOUR BUSINESSES HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED POSTING ILLEGAL OUTDOOR SIGNAGE.

Your business has been identified as violating Philadelphia Code Chapter 10-1200 as amended. Section 10-1200 fixes responsibility for illegal signage code enforcement with the Department of Licenses and Inspections (L&I). The Code prohibits the posting of commercial signs to streetlight and utility poles. Any person responsible for posting of an illegal sign shall be liable for the cost incurred to remove the sign and a penalty of $75. The Code also mentions that the potential penalty for a violation is a fine up to $300 per violation.
PHILA ENFRCMNT
 Apr 05th, 2011
THIS BUSINESS POSTS ILLEGAL SIGNS PER PHILADELPHIA CITY CODE 10 SEC. 1200, AMENDED.

PICTURE OF BUSINESS'S OFFENDING SIGN:
http://i55.tinypic.com/2myw7de.jpg

THIS BUSINESS REFUSES TO IDENTIFY ITSELF. CALLED NBR, OWNER WAS COMBATIVE AND WOULD NOT REVEAL NAME OR ADDRESS.
PHILA ENFRCMNT
 Apr 01st, 2011
Bastian Well Service Inc.

Andover, MN 55304
1200 Andover Blvd NW, Andover, MN 55304
7634202446

www.bastianwell.com

We provide well and pump repair for residential, commercial, farm and industrial pumps and wells, including 24-hour emergency well and pump service. Our company is fully insured and bonded.
Well Drilling, Well Pump Repair, Emergency Well Repair, Drilling Contractor, Well Drilling Contractor.
me
 Mar 18th, 2011
Legacy Home Inspectors North Miami

North Miami, FL 33167

1200 Northwest 129th Street, North Miami, Florida

(305) 771-5691

Legacy Home Inspectors North Miami offers full scale home inspection services in North Miami, FL
Parabel
 Feb 07th, 2011
Plaza Associates
370 7th Ave # 1200
New York, NY 10001-3982
212-695-8750

www.plazaassociates.com/
me
 Feb 03rd, 2011
Illegal SMS spam to my cell phone:
"Need some quick cash? You can easily get $1200, wired into your bank account today! For info, just reply back the word "PAY". (To cancel: reply STOP).
Rob T.
 Jan 31st, 2011
Newbern Service Center
1200 West Main Street Newbern, TN
38059-7400

7316273407

731-627-9868FAX]

Newbern Service Center is providing auto repair service in Newbern, TN. Call us for more information at 731-627-3407.
Brake Repair, Tire Service, Auto Repair, Towing Service, Auto Repair Shop
Newbern
 Jan 30th, 2011
Got this message on cell phone "Need some quick cash? You can easily get $1200 wired into your bank account today! For infor. just reply back the word " PAY" (to cancel:reply stop)

GARBAGE JUNK ON CELL PHONES NOW???
Suzi
 Jan 25th, 2011
text to "Jen, here is the site you asked about, www.Pay1Vip.com, they got me $1200 in 1 day and they did?nt (SIC) even check my credit. Just log on and fill out the app."

I DIDN'T EVEN TRY THE URL - hopefully it's been taken down already. Will report to the FTC and CAN SPAM websites.
Bruce
 Jan 21st, 2011
Invariably some no-name defender of BofA/Countrywide's constant calls will read comments such as mine and submit a non-disguisable comment revealing the defender's background. Until then, let's see: The 1-800-669-0102 calls are billed to BofA/Countrywide at local rates instead of as long-distance calls. If Stacy calls from the U.S., then it's a 2c/min rate. If a person or robocaller in India calls, then it's something like a 1 rupee/min rate. Stacy and the Indian call centers will continue to call persons non-stop, as others continue to report here and at 800notes.com and at whocallsme.com and at everycall.us. These calls may or may NOT be returned. Simple mathematics tells us that the aggressive 25 calls/week average will be costing BofA/Countrywide a mere 50cents or 25rupees per week. This comes out to $2 or 100 rupees per month, and then $24 or 1200 rupees per year, albeit still a trivial amount. On the other hand, multiply this yearly figure by the number of persons targeted by these calls, then add possible additional costs (legal?) levied against BofA/Countrywide, and eventually the constant [non-returned] calls from this 1-800 number will slowly start to cost BofA/Countrywide a SIGNIFICANT amount of change.

To that no-name defender responding to the comments here, go ahead and feed these figures back to your BofA/Countrywide bosses before you or they spin these away :)
Jay
 Jan 11th, 2011
I'm in Albany, NY area and received today a sms (text message) from 213-241-9305.It is a scammer sending unwanted text message "Need some quick cash? You can easily get $1200.00 in your bank account today. For info just reply back the word pay...". According to the website the phone is in LA area. The best suggestion: install call + sms (text) blocker on your phone. I did.
Mont
 Jan 11th, 2011
this came to our cell phone as a text it says "need some quick cash? you can easily get $1200.00 wired into your bank account today! for info, just reply back the word "PAY", to cancel reply "STOP"
which we did neither
ginger
 Jan 10th, 2011
I donate through the Gulf Coast Regional Blood Center and only get phone calls from them to remind me of my appointments. If you do not wish to receive their calls, you can call their customer service number (1-888-482-5663 or 713-790-1200) and request to not be contacted. You can also go to their website (www.giveblood.org), register (if you have enough details) and change your contact preferences to opt out (or just change your phone number to something else).
Robert
 Jan 10th, 2011
Text message offering $1200 "quick cash" Geez
david
 Jan 04th, 2011
text spam:

"Need some quick cash? You can easily get $1200 wired into your bank account today! For info, just reply back the word "PAY". (To cancel: reply STOP)
UberAnnoyed
 Jan 04th, 2011
Rcvd txt msg on cell phone: "Need some quick cash? You can easily get $1200 wired into your bank account today! For more info, just reply back the word 'pay'.(to cancle: reply 'stop')."

NEW Cingular Wireless PCS, LLC
8682 Beach Blvd # 101B, Buena Park
714-995-5720
Bahb
 Dec 07th, 2010
Text spam: "Need some quick cash? You can easily get $1200 wired into your bank account today! For info, just reply back the word "PAY". (To cancel: reply STOP)"
UberAnnoyed
 Nov 25th, 2010
We received this call on a sunday. Our 9 year old daughter answered the phone and was asked if we were home. When she told the caller that we were unavailable the caller said that they would call back. The caller i.d. came up as: CHILD SERVICES. Being that our daughter was involved in the call, we went about trying to locate the origin of the phone number. This is what we found online: The call is from a residential landline, located at 6162 Red Tail Dr. Milton, FL. 32570. The home is a rental ($1200. per month) under the name of Ericka Thompson/Ericka Slay. I've yet to find out what this about, but it is looking very shady. Beware
magee
 Nov 22nd, 2010
I got a call from this company today. The said that they were with Visa services and said that they can lower my interest rate on my card. Seeing that I was ay 14%, I said okay. They wanted my cc # an I hesitated but I gave it to them since I'm protected anyway from unauthorized charges. They then had someone else call me back within 30 minutes. The second call came from 805-357-1666. They said that can lower my rate to 6% so I said sure. Then he quickly mentioned that there would be a $1200 charge for the savings...He went over that part very quickly so I had to stop him and ask what for...He said that's their fee. I started asking more questions such as the name of the company, his name, where they are located + mentioned I would like to think about it all of which offended him and he turned nasty by belittleing me for having revolving debt on my card so I simply hung up. Would like to know who these people are. They are very shady. Be careful.
AN
 Oct 30th, 2010
I got a call from these people offering me a job. They said that I would be a Sales Rep and would go to the store and see if I could save the customer anywhere from $500 to $1500 a month in credit card charges. So I was like yeah I could do that. He told me that they where getting a lot of calls from my area. (Jackson, Ms) He said that it was a commission based job and I could earn anywhere from $1200- 4500 a week. Told me they even had Blue Cross Blue Shield Health Insurance. It sounded great to me until I started Googling the company!!!!
Jessica
 Oct 29th, 2010
He broke into my garage and took my car causing $1200 in damages. I called the police and the police said there was nothing I could do as he had a court order. I contacted an attorney and he informed me that what had happened to me was perfectly legal in Arizona. He called it a Repliven. I don't know what to do I guess I am going to buy a used car ASAP before the repo hits my credit.
sam
 Oct 26th, 2010
Caller says GE and I won a 1200.00 security system. I think it is a scam
Tim Bryant
 Oct 12th, 2010
Rude and said collection for a bank I have NEVER had an account with at anytime. Said demanding nearly $1200; sent 4 letters (which I have not received) had an old address from 6 yrs ago! Again stated I never had a checking account with the bank he stated and for him to send me PRINTED information; refused request. I finally ended the call and put a block on that number. Sounded like a SCAM to me and not paying for anything I do not owe! Guess I'll have to print out all the various telephone numbers they use and the block each on of many! I'm no the Do Not Call List, so I have no idea how they got my current unlisted number! Besides, they didn't even have my correct name!!!
Benay
 Jul 30th, 2010
White Pages.com shows this number to be:
Vietnam Veterans Pick Up Service
3621 Symmes Rd
Hamilton, OH 45015
513-874-1140
(513) 672-1200
Cincinnati Joe
 Jul 13th, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks. http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/press/pdfs/n1746_american_association_of_police_officers.pdf

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project. http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12576824#

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear. http://blogs.tampabay.com/bizarre/2010/05/workplace-brawl-costs-coworker-a-tooth.html (one fundraiser for Officer Down Foundation beat up another fundraiser right in the call center a few weeks ago. Type his name in here and see what you get. https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=51&data=57608f8ddc597f1f978bd1ca0550fc96 Here is a link to the Sheriff of Pasco county, call him up and ask him to protect you from this group trying to scam you in the name of fallen officers http://www.pascosheriff.com/webapps/psofbdt.pgm
Check out the House of David Deirks, is your house that big? http://maps.google.com/maps?li=rwp&q=67+Rusty+Ln,+Mammoth+Lakes,+CA+93546
Check out page 5 of the book describing the “Police Protective Fund” it’s the exact same program as that of the Officer Down Foundation. How do you suppose that Officer Down Foundation wound up with the exact same program run by the exact same guy as The Police Protective Fund? They must have bought from the Police Protective Fund since it is a program and an asset of the Police Protective Fund. Whether it is a good program or not it still belongs to the people who donated to the Police Protective Fund which paid to develop and implement it. It is an asset that has mysteriously been transferred to another non profit, The Officer Down Foundation.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks. http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/press/pdfs/n1746_american_association_of_police_officers.pdf

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project. http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12576824#

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear. http://blogs.tampabay.com/bizarre/2010/05/workplace-brawl-costs-coworker-a-tooth.html (one fundraiser for Officer Down Foundation beat up another fundraiser right in the call center a few weeks ago. Type his name in here and see what you get. https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=51&data=57608f8ddc597f1f978bd1ca0550fc96 Here is a link to the Sheriff of Pasco county, call him up and ask him to protect you from this group trying to scam you in the name of fallen officers http://www.pascosheriff.com/webapps/psofbdt.pgm
Check out the House of David Deirks, is your house that big? http://maps.google.com/maps?li=rwp&q=67+Rusty+Ln,+Mammoth+Lakes,+CA+93546
Check out page 5 of the book describing the “Police Protective Fund” it’s the exact same program as that of the Officer Down Foundation. How do you suppose that Officer Down Foundation wound up with the exact same program run by the exact same guy as The Police Protective Fund? They must have bought from the Police Protective Fund since it is a program and an asset of the Police Protective Fund. Whether it is a good program or not it still belongs to the people who donated to the Police Protective Fund which paid to develop and implement it. It is an asset that has mysteriously been transferred to another non profit, The Officer Down Foundation.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks. http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/press/pdfs/n1746_american_association_of_police_officers.pdf

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project. http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12576824#

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear. http://blogs.tampabay.com/bizarre/2010/05/workplace-brawl-costs-coworker-a-tooth.html (one fundraiser for Officer Down Foundation beat up another fundraiser right in the call center a few weeks ago. Type his name in here and see what you get. https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/docket?county=51&data=57608f8ddc597f1f978bd1ca0550fc96 Here is a link to the Sheriff of Pasco county, call him up and ask him to protect you from this group trying to scam you in the name of fallen officers http://www.pascosheriff.com/webapps/psofbdt.pgm
Check out the House of David Deirks, is your house that big? http://maps.google.com/maps?li=rwp&q=67+Rusty+Ln,+Mammoth+Lakes,+CA+93546
Check out page 5 of the book describing the “Police Protective Fund” it’s the exact same program as that of the Officer Down Foundation. How do you suppose that Officer Down Foundation wound up with the exact same program run by the exact same guy as The Police Protective Fund? They must have bought from the Police Protective Fund since it is a program and an asset of the Police Protective Fund. Whether it is a good program or not it still belongs to the people who donated to the Police Protective Fund which paid to develop and implement it. It is an asset that has mysteriously been transferred to another non profit, The Officer Down Foundation.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


We stand on the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


We stand on the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


We stand on the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


We stand on the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


We stand on the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


We stand on the First Amendment to the
United States Constitution.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GROUP ON THIS PAGE< BUT IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE GROUP>
And about Charity Fraud in General

THIS IS OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ABOUT POLICE FIRE VETERAN’S AND CHILDREN'S CHARITIES. It can happen anywhere and when it does we would love to hear from you.

WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING – WARNING – WARNING ! WARNING ! WARNING !

As for the group on this page, it would be a good idea to let your fundraiser know we are out here and now you know that we are looking at them too. I would not let them misrepresent because the first time they do and we catch them, it's all over with but the crying.

If you are reading this message then you were just called by a potentially fraudulent fundraiser for a Police Fire Veteran’s or Children’s Charity. Call your local police department immediately. These organization’s count of the fact that 99% of you do not follow through on your complain about them. That attitude is going to let them call your Grandmother next and believe me when I say they WILL take advantage of her. Give everyone you know our website address www.badgefraud.com and there they will learn everything they need to know to protect themselves and their neighbor’s. No one need donate to us for us to have your backs in this matter.

No Non Profit or Charity has to ever hear from us and they will not unless we find them using the fraudulent techniques that so many States have declared with one voice are illegal and deceptive.

It’s quite simple; if the group is operating legally, we can’t touch them. And they should not be upset with us. They will not have to compete with these shady operators in the future and will have more successful fund drives giving them more money. We have done our job’s.

WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP – WE NEED YOUR HELP
We are currently tracking these people through about 1200 of their actual phone lines on message boards like this one and the only way to shake us is to change phone numbers. We expect that number to rise to around 10,000 in the coming months. Every time they get a new number to work from, as soon as they start calling they generate complaints that show up on boards like 800notes.com among others giving us their new phone number to track. In other words every time a fraud pops up, anywhere in the world, we know about it within a day or two of it beginning and can report it and attack it right away.

Please include as much information about the call as you can.

Specifically we need to know the phone number that called you? (we are building a database of every phone number that these groups use to track their call’s.)

Exactly what they told you?

Did they say they were a police officer or a fireman or a veteran? Active or Retired?

Did they say they were calling “with” or “on behalf” of an organization?

Did they say they were a charity or a non profit labor organization?

Did they try to guilt you in to giving?

Did they imply or infer that they were actual officers making the calls?

Did they use intimidation tactics? (if you felt intimidated then yes they used them)

Did they say the phrase “you not in trouble or anything” implying that you should think you might be?

Did they thank you for your past donation?

Did they imply a local connection?

The techniques these organizations employ are by their very nature, deceptive and illegal.

If they have mailed you ANY marketing material, please scan it and email it to ely@pfcl.org to include the full contents of any communication, letter, sticker, return envelope, etc etc etc. *we are only interested in what they tell you so please whit out your personal information before you email it in) we want it from every group that contacts you not just the one on this board. We are looking for sales techniques that many States have already stated are illegal. Once we find them, that information is sent to the Attorney General in the States where they are operating.

Our investigation techniques differ from the Government. We investigate from the outside in while they go after the numbers from the inside out. The numbers do not matter to us, to be quite blunt about it, if the illegal techniques are there, the numbers are too.
Please remember the people that employ these techniques don’t care if you are rich or poor, young or old, sick or well, Republican or Democrat, they do not care what color we are, what gender we are or whether we are Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or 100 other Religion’s, they ONLY care that our money is green and spends like water.

We need you, THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO SCAM, we need you to tell your neighbors, friends, associates, family especially, but also, go to your churches and tell your Pastors and Priests tell the everyone who will listen about us and what we do. That helps us more than anything else. Get the word out that we are out here. Give them our web address and or email, the more people that learn about this the better it is for everyone else in the Country when the groups that use these techniques and tactics to pressure you into giving your hard earned money to them.

EXAMPLE OF A CURRENT ATTACK FROM US

Officer Down Foundation,

This is a message from Rev. James revjames@pfcl.org of the Holy Land Spiritual Church Inc. in Maryland and its integrated auxiliary Police Fire Crimeline (The Badge Fraud Tip Reporting Hotline) www.badgefraud.org

I am only going to tell you this one time. Don't you dare come out here on to this or any other board and try to say you are trying to help fallen police officers. You are not trying to help anyone but yourselves. You think I am going to let you talk to these people who are trying to protect themselves from you in that condescending manner. Let me see if I can explain this to your two week on the job backside. Officer Down Foundation's program is to teach Crisis Chaplaincy to Chaplains, it is not to provide benefits to the families of officers killed, they only pitch that because their real program would not get them one single donation, and every time you say they are providing benefits to families of officers killed it is a lie and a misrepresentation and is potentially criminally actionable against you personally as well as your bosses David Fair, Paul Kutac, Phil Leconte and David Deriks.

I will bet you did not know that those are the same group of guys that run the Police Protective Fund and American Association of Police Officers and the Junior Police Academy. These men are so honest and hard working that even after several states sued the pants off of them they had to go out and start another identical fake charity. Remember "Operation False Charity"? Yeah, wow, they were part of it, and now look at who has come to defend them and their new carbon copy of the Multi State proven fraud the Police Protective Fund and by extension The Crisis Chaplin Project.

You, a person that I already know has maybe 2 weeks experience on the phone. I am going to offer you some sage advice from one of your elders in what is left of that industry. GET A NEW JOB! This one is about to disappear.

Now, you have called into 6 of my 50 states and misrepresented yourselves, Maryland, Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee and North Carolina and that is a problem for your organization because that is where my organization is located and our mission is to protect charitable dollars specifically raised in the name of Officers Killed in the Line of Duty. Now let me tell you what my organization does. We search out and report fraudulent Police Fire Veteran's and Children's Charities and their professional fundraisers. We protect the money of the people who protect us.

If anyone reading this wants to help with a donation for us to keep going after these scams, feel free to email me and lets talk. revjames@pfcl.org And unlike David Fair attempting to claim 501 c3 status before it is granted, Churches, like the Holy Land Spiritual Church in the United States are granted automatic 501 c3 status so you know you can deduct your donation from your taxes when the law allows.

We also recruit former professional police fundraisers as volunteers to help us go after groups like yours and you would be welcome to join us as well. And we always want to hear any tips on fraudulent activity in public safety charities so we can report them too. The days of diverting money from non profits and charities that really give their money to the families of officers killed in the line of duty, are OVER!

What a coincidence that would be huh? A church and a Minster going after a Chaplain, I would say God called one of us and the other has a big problem not just on earth, but after life too.

Do you know how much easier our job would be if your Officer Down Foundation did not exist?

I am not the kind of minister you are probably familiar with that gets up on Sunday morning to preach about Fire and Brimstone. I am the kind of minister that BRINGS Fire and Brimstone to your doorstep.

See the problem for your organization is that because of your fraudulent activity, you are making us expend our donor’s money to investigate you because you see, that is what OUR donors (Holy Land Spiritual Church) gave their money too and they knew full well that they were giving their money for us to go after groups like yours.

That would be the exact opposite of your group where the donor’s think they are giving to the families of officers killed in the line of duty but what you dont tell them is that the money they donate is really going to David Fair's personal mission of this "Crisis Chaplain" concept.

Well if you did not know we existed before I am not surprised, they never tell you phone jockey's anything, but you are about to know we exist now.

It is our duty and responsibility to protect our donor’s money and the only way for us to do that in the case of the Officer Down Foundation is for them to shut down voluntarily or we must sue the pants off of your group until you are ended. Oh and that is not all you have to look forward too, in North Carolina where you are calling, what you are doing is considered to be a class H felony.

GET A NEW JOB! THE FREE RIDE IS OVER! WE ARE COMING TO SHUT YOU DOWN!

Sincerely,

Rev. James
Holy Land Spiritual Church
Police Fire Crimeline
Badge Fraud Detective Investigations Inc.
5409 Deale Churchton Road #202
Churchton, MD 20733
revjames@pfcl.org
www.badgefraud.org or www.pfcl.org
Tip Line 877-FRAUD97 (tips only)
http://policefirecrimeline.crimestoppersweb.com/ (submit online tips)
202-470-3209 (Church Office)

OUR AUTHORITY

Liviticus 6-2 to 6-5

6:2
When any of you sin and commit a trespass against the Lord by deceiving a neighbor in a matter of a deposit or a pledge, or by robbery, or if you have defrauded a neighbor,

6:3
or have found something lost and lied about it—if you swear falsely regarding any of the various things that one may do and sin thereby—

6:4
when you have sinned and realize your guilt, and would restore what you took by robbery or by fraud or the deposit that was committed to you, or the lost thing that you found,

6:5
or anything else about which you have sworn falsely, you shall repay the principal amount and shall add one-fifth to it. You shall pay it to its owner when you realize your guilt.


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Amendment I
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Rev James
 Jun 22nd, 2010

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