The phone is ringing, and I don't recognize the number, All Caller ID says is, "NAME UNAVAILABLE".
Please help me figure out who is calling and what they want
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unknownrecordedmsg calls from 3 phone numbers:
THESE ARE THE MOST DISGUSTING PEOPLE U WILL EVER SEE IN UR LIFE INSIDE AND OUT. DO NOT PAY THEM. THEY WRITE DOWN UR CHECKING AND DEBIT CARD INFORMATION AND TAKE IT HOME WITH THEM. FOR EXAMPLE...IF DAN WILLIAMS CALLS U HANG UP IMMEDIATELY!! HE'S GOT A LENGTHY CRIMINAL RECORD. HE BEATS WOMEN. BROKE HER BONE LAST FEBRUARY. HE DOES OXYCOTON, SMOKES CRACK, AND SHARES ANOTHER EMPLOYEE LISA BANGLIERE (THE OFFICE WHORE) W/HIS MNGR RON LICHT WHO IS MARRIED W/ KIDS(SHAME ON HIM)AND SOME BLACK DUDE THAT JUST STARTED WORKING THERE. HE GETS IN BAR FIGHTS EVERY WEEKEND AND HAS BEEN ARRESTED FOR SHOPLIFTING AND EMBEZZLEMENT. DO NOT PAY THESE PEOPLE. THEY'RE LOW LIFE SCUMBAGS. FILE A COMPLAINT W/UR STATES ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IMMEDIATELY IF THEY ARE CALLING UR HOME OR WORK. SEND THEM AN ORDER OF CEASE AND DESIST IN ORDER TO STOP THESE CREEPS. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
Renenber this: Collection agencies either BUY debt (credit card loans, judgments, etc.) from debt auction houses (from 4-6% on the dollar) or take a consignment consisting of a "collection contingency fee" directly from the lender -- all in an effort to collect debt from YOU. Do your homework, and understand how the system works. The biggest problem collectors have is in proving an "assignment" of ownership, particularly from debt auctions. Read into this, the difficulty of being unable to trace all the paperwork down to "prove up" the debt" if they bought it at auction. If they cannot collect, they seldom sue (but they can if they want), but likely won't win, if you know how to fight back. Of course, valuable is a lawyer on your behalf, but if the collector cannot prove a "chain of custody" of the debt, he's out of luck at the courthouse. In the meantime, you're not supposed to know all this stuff, believing their harassment techniques will bluff you into making some form of payment to them (which only starts a new clock running when you do in terms of statute of limitations). BE WISE, not stupid. Know what you are up against, and you can better defeat them and their illegal collection tactics. Never acknowledge, nor admit any debt by phone, or by letter. In fact, simply hang up on them when they call. And don't answer any letters, unless you get trapped into signing a "certified letter return receipt" and then the presumption is that YOU got the mail, and were officially notified, and by not responding, they may take the chance and file a lawsuit, hoping you will also ignore that, and then secure a default judgment; only at that point looking at the profitability of foreclosing on the judgment at a good profit (think your assets), or alternatively, anything you sent them ABOVE what they paid for the debt, is Profit, and once they have sufficient profit, only turn around then and sell it back at auction as now a Judgment instead of just a debt. Then, once a LEVY is brought about upon your property (assets) compounded with a Court ordered Judgment, its at that point you may be up the creek without a paddle. That's when they can take money from a checking account (think FREEZING an account), an automobile, motorcycle, boat, camper trailer, typically anything that is "registered," and easy to determine in terms of age, condition and value. Many homes are protected via Homestead Exemption, but not in all states. Secure an internet printout of the EXEMPTIONS in your state and the amounts by which you are protected on assets (type in Asset Protection State by State) and you'll find it. Whining gets you no where; become pro-active and smarten yourself up a bit, and you'll be glad you did. Adios. Whistleblower.
this is a creepy law firm that buys overdue accounts and trys to contact ANYONE who ever knew the person they are looking for....ever. They hound me looking for someone else. I called them and told them I DON'T own them money and never did... They keep calling. Any Credit card company that can't get who they are after... will then sell the bad account to this jerk. The frigen Jerk is BLUHM, CFG, creditors financial group, who hounds anybody they can find, who once knew the person they are looking for. PLUS, they have several phone numbers to bug people. Telling them "you have the wrong person, and phone number" makes no difference.
Not to be snide, Linda, but you can't report anything to FDCPA. That's a document, not an agency. You did a good job documenting calls, apart from having no names of the reps. For the purpose of sharing experience with fellow WCU readers, you should have redacted or changed the name of the alleged debtor in this version. I'm sure there are other women with her name, so it's not the worst 'oopsie'.
The FTC makes two demands of third party collectors which are sometimes in conflict. A collector must make "meaningful disclosure" of its identity yet respect the privacy of whoever is named on a debt account. Not surprisingly, some collectors are shy with phone messages and the courts don't all agree on what makes a privacy violation. I do think a collector can and should reveal a business name. Discussion of an account beyond that is a definite no-no if the collector is not certain the correct person has been reached. CFG _might_ have made two counts of nondisclosure, but they probably won't float a case.
Technically ignoring your verbal cease-comm is a harder violation, but you would have to subpoena CFG or have your own recording to prove it. Rogue collectors are anyway trained to assume everyone they call is a chronic liar. (Pot, meet the black kettle.) That's why creating a paper trail makes things simpler. The mere arrival of Certified mail signals how serious you are.
You're correct that Michigan is an all-party consent state regarding phone call recording. However, the Second Circuit Court of Appeals ruled this August that single party consent is just peachy so long as your intent is not in some way criminal or malicious. At the Federal level, you're good to go, and it's not like the collector's attempt at a transaction is not interstate. Honoring the state level, you could hedge your bets and announce recording, but that may cause the rep to either refuse to continue, or grudgingly switch to Very Best Behavior. My vote of course is to quietly roll tape and let the collector decide how far to stray from FTC regs.
I'm sure your cursing was deserved, but the best revenge comes if your attacker loses control while you remain cool. Also, I can't find the statute which says the term "please" is required for compliance. I think the rep was trying to assert control after you got the drop on the drone. Luck be with you.
I just submitted a complete description of my situation to the FDCPA. Here's what I said (minus the epithet).
They are calling for a person named Camille Hope. I have had calls for Ms. Hope before from other debt collectors (the others have always taken me out of their databases once I told them they were in error). Apparently Ms. Hope entered my phone number as her “contact number” on a loan application. I have no idea who Ms. Hope is and have had my telephone number for the past 34 years.
CFG called me looking for Ms. Hope on
--9/2/10, 1:00 pm – my answering machine picked it up; they left no message (I got their number from my caller ID)
--10/4/10, 1:30 pm – I answered. The caller (without identifying himself or his company) said “Camille?” I explained the situation and asked to be removed from their list. The caller refused, so I told him he could [redacted]. (Sorry, but that’s what I said. They probably have it on tape, although the tape wouldn’t be legal in Michigan, which requires both parties to be aware of the taping.) He hung up.
--10/19/10, 10:30 am – I answered. Again, the caller (without identifying himself or his company) said “Camille?” I explained that (1) I had no idea who Camille was, (2) I knew he was from a collection agency, and (3) every time Camille’s debt was re-sold to another collection agency, people started calling me again. I again asked the caller to PLEASE remove me from their database. The caller told me I would have to say “please” (which I had) and then hung up on me.
The next time they call, I plan to tape the encounter, myself.
Linda: Do file your complaints with FCC and FTC for the good of all, but don't expect regulators to solve your individual problem. The collector will ignore verbal requests every time. Your cease-comm needs to be on paper and sent USPS CMRR to make it stick.
George: Mobile phones have no blanket protection from collectors. The FDCPA forbids such calls on the basis of creating undue cost to an alleged debtor. However, industry lobby group ACA International won a recent exemption from TCPA, clearing the same call category. To my reckoning, court rulings have not been of much help with this confusion.
From this thread alone Creditors Financial Group seems comfortable with using lies, deception, and nasty tactics to score commissions. Make no mistake, this bad behavior is the rule and not the exception among Buffalo Bullies. (Economically depressed Western NY is a debt collector mecca.) Dealing with them by voice alone will be a wasted exercise except maybe to gather violations for your own lawsuit.
If you are receiving misdirected or abusive calls from a third party debt collector like CFG, you may find relief in the provisions of the FDCPA, which regulates bad collector behavior. Learn your rights at FTC-dot-gov.
Well, guess what! They called back. That makes three times (that I have a record of). Each time, I've asked to be removed from their data base (since I don't know the person they're loooking for). Now it's time to turn these assholes in to the FCC.
these people keep calling my cell. from what i understand they are a debt collector. also fromwhat i understand, they are not allowed to cell phones.
The caller asked for someone who has never lived here. He wouldn't accept my explanation that he had the wrong number (explaining that my number had been "given to him as a contact number") and refused to take me off his list. I told him he could [redacted]. We'll see if he calls back.
Caller refused to self identify. Then the caller called back again and there was just silence. How could anyone know whether or not they are stalkers, axe muderers, sexual predators, etc.? Very rude indeed!!!!
I called back, reached a polite guy. He asked if I knew some guy I never heard of. He removed my number from his files. It was a pleasant short experience. Based on this one experience, I would not worry about returning the call.
Brian Wilson from Credit Financial Group called me but when I told him I was recording the conversation (which I was) he abruptly hung up. When we play by the same rules the weak give IN!!!!!!!
This number called my home phone. Male voice with a Canadian Accent would not give his name, claimed someone with a name that sounded like a composite name of two different relatives who live in two different states(Neither one Virginia, or Louisiana)had given this number as a "Primary Contact Number" He asked me my name without giving his, or who he was representing. I didn't give it to him, or tell him the names of any of my relatives. He said he would "remove the contact info.
If he callas again, I'm reporting A harassing caller.
Recieved the first call today from a Ms. Murphay asking for my father said I was used as a refrence. Knowing my father has steller credit and would never involve m, his adult child in his financial matters I played along and took down all the info she had to offer. I checked here on the number and seeing my point proven- that this is a scam I called back to point out what an idot she was and to let them know there was no more need to call. I spoke to Ms. Murphay once again for her to get an attitude and scream at me... Am I your CHILDDDDD???? She said over and over. This was after I told her she was an idot for telling me my father listed this number on an application in 05' when I have only had this number for less than a year. She told me when I got a better attitude I could call back. I did call back and spoke with the supposed "dumbass in charge". He tells me my number has been taken off the calling list, I let him know we would have issues if they called back. I know it's silly ut I can't stand people like this. I just pisses me off to the point I actually get mad. I am not an agressive person by nature AT ALL... But these fools get me going!!!
They called me from an unknown number. Left a message trying to sound very authoritative. Referring himself as Mr. Carroll. And to give him a call immediately concerning my involvement. And to call him at 877-298-2251.
Involvement with what? haha What a dick. Who falls for that.
They break the law. I do owe a debt as mnay do in this bad economy , they broke the law and lied to a relative of mine to try to get my phone number. I just recently hired an attorney and their lies cost them over 3k! they had to pay me plus attorney fees. do not tolerate this. tell them to cease calls and put all comminucation in writing. as for their address to send it to - if they do not comply or refuse to give the address you can hire an attorney and get paid too.
Thomas Lindley calling for claim # xxxxxxxx. very important that you return my call to handle this claim.
Called and left a number and extension. Said to call immediately because call was to collect a debt. Did not say who was calling, no company or name. Caller ID came up Creditors Financial with same number the caller gave me to return the call: 877-298-2251. Have good credit and no unpaid debts but cannot say the same for some family members with the same last name. I assume they are trying to reach these people by harrassing me.
I have no idea what garbled message they left! something about a recommendation?
I just learned that Henry Swayze's cell phone number is 303 819 5555. Give him a call some time when he's at home with his family. I'm sure that he will appreciate it. Keep calling too, if he doesn't answer just keep calling until he does. He eventually will pick up.
Get Google Voice Mail. It's free, it just takes awhile to get an account. Then get call forwarding on your phone and let it ring twice then forward to Google Voice. You then can block the calls from the numbers you do not want. All they will hear is "the number you have reached in no longer in service or has been disconnected" It's free and it keeps these scum bags away.
The owner of this company is Henry Swayze and his direct line is 866-7237980. If you call after hours it sometimes rings through to his cell phone. His fax # is 3033694061. The VP of the Buffalo office is Mike Porth. The assistant to the VP is Jo Deguillio and his direct number is 877 298 2251 ext. 3502.
Give these guys a call directly if you get a call and they are rude. keep calling and leaving messages of your own. I'm sure that they don't want you to have these numbers. The employees guard them pretty closely.
This guy calls named josh and asks for my father and I simply and HONESTLY tell him he's not home and a I was stunned by his reply. "DON'T PLAY GAMES WITH ME, AND GIVE HIM THE PHONE. And yet again I said he's not home and he replied the same way. So CFG don't pay these people to be rude!!!!
Got a call from these guys on my cellphone looking for my son ...
A guy called Ed Thomas claimed to be calling about a "personal business issue" and NOT be a collection agency ...
Called the number back, and surprise surprise ... the VRU said "Thankyou for calling the Creditors Financial Group" ...
They have been calling 8-8:30am. I have no bills overdue so I think this is a call to find someone I know or a scam.
Collection agency that Bank of America uses. His voicemail also asked to IMMEDIATELYT return call at 877-803-7058.
The keep calling looking for a family member. I state over and over, you have the wrong number. Does no good, they call several times a day anyway, they say they won't stop unless I give them up. They say they can do it because the person once gave my phone number out as theirs.
What a bunch of assholes ! CFG is a JOKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck them-
I have actually been doing business with these folks. Had arranged payment plans and been paying them, but when life took a nasty turn, I no longer had the money. The check bounced and the most interesting of conversations with them ensued. I challenged them on all of it stating that I had no intention of defrauding anyone, just didnt have any money right now and reminded them that I made arrangments to pay as proof of my not wanting to defraud anyone. Once the collector had no verbal leg to stand on and the threats were childish (which I stated to her as well), she had no more skills left and hung up on me. I assume from this that my business with them is over for now, good thing....I dont have an money until I find a job.
The collector handling your settlement makes a commission from what you pay, so they will say wrong things to avoid having to pay their bonuses back from your bouncing checks. Creditors Financial Group employees have very few skills in their basket to work with and resort to unrealistic and unprofessional claims and statements, why would anyone give this group money after that. I call their legitimacy as a company into question; they have a poor rating with the BBB. I am writing to the CEO, Henry Swayze at 3131 S Vaughn Way Ste 110, Aurora CO 80014 to inquire about his employees inability to conduct business in an appropriate manner and challenge his company's legitimacy to collect debt. He incorporated this company Aug 30, 2001 in the state of Florida, which is still active, so he is pretty sly. He also runs NCO Financial systems which is also a collection agency. This will be interesting and fun.
FYI: Collection agencies purchase your debt at auction for a fraction of its total value, so whatever they get out you is usually profit for them. On my $3000.00 debt, they paid $400.00, so the money I gave them is profit. This is why they will make settlement offers; they arent losing anything at all because the settlment offer is generally 30% more than what they paid for your debt at auction.
Said "I have bad news about some of your personal information. Please call ASAP." Made it sound like be was with a lawyers office. Left a name and number but not who he was with or what it was about.
This organization called a work number and was harassing the rep as in me on the phone and then asked for HR and HR stated they will not do verifications of employment on the phone and have to call the work number. The person wasn't callling for that they said. HR told me to get rid of them that this was a business and they were not to call.
Said that it was important to call back regarding outstanding tickets if wanting to settle out of court. No outstanding tickets exist!
Very rude female Kathy Bavaro,stated a complaint was filed in my name in NJ left no contact name of firm or who she represents. Advised my credit lawyer of the call.
When I get calls from 800 type numbers I don't even answer. Those numbers have a different ring so it is easy to ignore them. I don't own anyone any money. My bills are paid. So they need to bug someone else.
i just received a call from a very rude man at cfg at my work. there were many co-workers around so i asked for his phone # and he became very rude telling me he knew it was hard to talk so instead he would have a sheriff serve me papers at my place of employment and then hung up. Can he do that????
James - kept calling back and was harrassing us! And would NOT give a company name
Just received a call from this number to my cell phone. I answered 'hello' and an operator wanted to know who I wanted to talk to. They sent me to someone else after I explained "YOU CALLED ME!" "Jason" said they were CFG and when I asked what that was and what they do he was very vague "we do alot of things". He asked my number which I gave, he looked on the computer and could find no record of me and asked my name which I refused to give to him and told him I was terminating the call and he hung up before the words were out of my mouth.
Lady on VM said she was calling from Bank of America. Oh really?
I havent heard from them since 3/26/09 when they called me three times in one day 6:05pm, 7:07pm, 8:08pm,. These little shits called again 04/09/09 7:35pm Same recorded message.
Called and left a message for my Ex-Husband. Couldnt understand the guys name. He sounded nervous and papers were ruffling while he gave his name. Asked to call back at the # above with a Ext#. Said it was Urgent that he get a call in his office for this today!!
I dont even have the same last name, so DONT call me.
I refuse to p/u any calls from #'s I do not know. So this company can have fun talking to my machine. With all the comments on here, I would tell EVERYONE to NOT take calls from them!!
And to the ASSWIPES, that keep saying to just pay your bills and you wont have a problem....LEARN TO READ!!
Almost ALL of us have nothing to do with this..It is another party they are after. So go back and get a G.E.D and get a LIFE!
You people who just jump in here and snipe "Well just pay your bills!!!!!" Wouldn't that be nice. I think we'd all love to be rolling in the dough like you, consider yourself lucky. There are dozens of reason why people get into debt in the first place, and it isn't usually because they are scam artists looking to steal from the poor, victimized little creditors. Most people who don't "PAY THE BILLS!!!!!!!!" don't because they CAN'T. And before you say something stupid like, "then don't borrow in the first place," I suggest a reality check. Again, most people do not recklessly take on debt they can't ever pay back for no reason.
BEWARE Creditors Financial Group: Also using 1-888-298-7107 This collection company that has stooped to a new LOW by calling me because they were trying to reach my neighbor! They were pretending that my neighbors phone is not properly working. They will ask you you deliver a message & phone number to your own neighbor, getting you to do their collections work for them!
CALL THEM BACK, and ask to talk to a manager, they will remove you from any future calls instantly!
They called again Creditors Financial Group, 3/20 11:17am
Well they called my neighbors for saying they were lawyers for a debt I don't even owe! Screaming yelling calling them liars. My neighbors were horrified and I am furious.
Unless you yourself owe the debt they legally cannot harass you but they do it anyway. Well I intend to tape the next conversations and sue and in addition my neighbors are going with me to the attorney to fill out sworn affadavits of what happened. Even if you owe the debt they can only call a neighbor once and only to verify your address. They called my neighbors more than once, misrepresenting both themselves and the situation.
The fact is some collectors justify what they do by saying "pay your bills" well guess what I do and this debt has nothing to do with me but you won't listen! And lots of other people have the same issues.
So quid pro quo collector. Since you think its okay to harass the innocent then its fine for me to sue the guilty!
They called again 3/18 7:35pm, 3/18 8:36pm. Here is what you can do: go to www.donotcall.gov and register your phone number to be put on the do not call list.
They call three times a day. When I called them back, they would ask for my name. When I asked them why they call, they don't tell you and ask for your name. When I say they should know who they are calling, they say they need to know my name first. When I asked them to take me off their calling list, they hang up. They are still calling me. I don't owe them any money!!!!! How can we report these callers. I'm tired of getting these calls in all hours of the day.
I keep getting calls every four months for a Richard R. with a case file number and little other information. I have called and called again telling them that I do not know this person, and I've had the number for over 7 years, even moved it to our new apt. They try to be seeking and ask if it's my husband's name. Gee, let me think about that, no it's not my husband. Also, they say well how about this guy, Henry T. do you know him. Now I know they are digging, just because someone's last name on your list rhymes with my last name doesn't mean I know them. Really, are they so desperate that they will throw out a bunch of names, just to see if they can get lucky. So for the third time I've told them to take my number off their list. We'll see if this works or if I'll be calling back in four months. CFG, check your records, and stop leaving multiple messages at wrong numbers. Oh and stop giving my number to other crappy credit collection agencies.
Creditors Financial Group (CFG); 3131 South Vaughn Way, Suite 110; Aurora CO 80014
They are calling my cell phone number for a James Powers. I have told them several times that I am not James Powers and this has been my phone number for over 5 years. "Do not call me! I am not James Powers. I will report you to the FCC." They did not listen and I have since reported CFG to the FCC. Everytime they call, I document it.
They keep calling and I try to settle this debt with them by paying what was charge and the women was so hateful to me said she see me in court so I hung up..
I think Jim got it right. PAY YOUR FRIGGIN BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!
If they break the laws, by all means report them to the authorities. But just calling you and telling you that you owe money and trying to retrieve it isn't a crime. You are committing the crime by charging up a credit card with no intention of paying and excusing that fact by saying that someone was rude to you!
If you get a call for someone you don't know, tell them or call them back and tell them and I am sure that you won't be bothered any further. Likewise, if you get a call saying you owe money, tell them you want proof in writing and politely hang up the phone. When you receive that proof, "PAY THE MONEY YOU OWE" and it's over.
Pretty cool huh?
Hee...hee these people are so fun to screw with. I play pre-recorded animal sounds or foreign languages for them, or call them back from two different phone numbers and let them talk to each other (they don't know WTF is going on). Listening to their befuddled reactions are hilarious. I'm now retired so it's the little things like messing with these twits that get me through the day.
This number keeps calling my fax machine, and it is not a fax. My fax is a relatively new number, and this number has called nearly every day at the same time.
I have received several calls. So far only messages are being left. A Jeffery called twice, 877-298-2251, ext. 3520. I never could understand his last name. The messages were sharp and referenced a claim number but was no reference to what the claim number was for. I received another call yesterday from a female. It came in on 866-919-4901, ext. 3578. Her message was more pleasant. She referenced the same claim number but again no indication of what it was for. Thank you for the insight of who is calling and past experiences.
Furthermore, he said a rival galactic collection had already begun a much more insideous plan. This group, the Aliens Without Ethics, or AWE, has planted their spies in our financial epicenter and had started the entire collapse of our banking and mortgage systems. All of the banks, insurance companies and financial gurus are actually members of AWE. Worse yet, their political wing, Politicians without Morals or Ethics had its head leader, Amabo Kcarab elected president of the USA (Unauthorized Space Aliens). soon his policies which totally ignore the alien issue will cause the complete collapse of earth's systems. The alien armies will then be forced out of the closet, headquartered in San Francisco, to fight a galactic battle for earth.
I answered and this guy alexander Jessup said he represented the "United Federation of Space Aliens for the Collection of Bad Planetary Debt." With that I just had to stay on the phone and listen as he told me that earth was way over its head in debt and that it was affecting the economies of the other planets, especially Jupiter and Uranus. If we earthlings don't pay up on our credit card debt, which is by the way non-bankruptable due to a law passed in 07 by aliens planted within our government, the UFSACBPD would be forced to destroy earth, He said first that aliens hiding in Gaza would begin to shoot at israel, then aliens in the government of Iran would attack Israel and then WWIII would begin. the idea is to not let us know that it is aliens fighting against earth since that is too creepy but to make us think this is just another typical middle east conflict.
A Craig Wagner called from a cell phone number saying that he was from Bank of America and that I owed $1050 from some old bill from years ago. He had NO information on what this bill was or who it was from. I have checked my credit report to see if there is anything fishy going on, and I have a completely positive report, with NO delinquencies. Do not give these people any personal information - please check to verify their claims and let them know that you will investigate what they have told you. Get as much information from them as possible, but DO NOT give them yours.
There is a guy that keeps calling from this number stating that there is a "claim" that is linked to my name and social security number and it is "imperative" (big word for these Bozo's!) that I call back or have a "legal representative" call back for me. I am guessing that this is a collection agency for United Mileage Plus Visa card as I ended up with the debt from my divorce and refuse to pay it since they don't work with me on it.
Jim - you have got to be a worker from CFG. You sound just like one of those pricks.
For everyone else - I have recieved multiple calls from these people as well. Seems like a scam especially after they were so pushy about getting my SSN. Word to the wise, never reveal any info about anything to a company who calls you on any of your phones. If they were even remotely legit, they would have mailed you some sort of official document and even then, you need to be cautious. Also, I never recieved any derogatory or threatening phone calls, but I wish I would have just so that I could have fun fucking with these lowlifes. Any by the way, I have a perfect credit report with no debt overdue, so they don't just call those who actually owe debt.
Got a call from this number ... before I identified myself, I asked the person to identify themselves and who they represented.
The woman made several threats, saying she would call later to reach the person she was seeking and would then start contacting my family and see what they thought of the situation ... then hung up when I asked again who she represented. It wasn't until I did a search of the number gained by dailing star 69 that I realized who the person represented. I have previous interactions with this company and they demand a lump payment ...
Seems to me there is a law reguiring these folks to identify themselves and forbids them from making threats ...
A woman called my cell and asked for Elizabeth Noonan. I said I'd never heard of her. When I asked who was calling she hung up. This is at least the fourth call I've had over the last six months from this number. They always ask for someone different. I've asked them to delete my number from their data base and filed a complaint but they continue to call. I fortunately do not have any bad debt and there can't be that many debtors out there giving out my cell phone number. What's the deal?
Mr. DeGeorge from this Creditor Financial Group, in Aurora,CO has been calling too many people...His work phone number is 1-877-298-2251. He calls for random non-existant names saying is urgent. The owner of the cell fells sorry the person is not getting the calls so call Mr.DeGeorge back and he just want you to say your phone number...if you do not say it...he get nasty...if you say it...he asked youformore info and link you to a messy scam...If you call his lady boss...she is worst...so my advice...Go to the FTC Bureau of Consumer ( www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov )and report them...Do not give them any personal info...noteven the phone number...because today, all business have caller ID...they think they are smart...
Calling for someone named John Simpson. Coincident with a call from a "MRS Associates" for same person. Many calls over the years looking for same guy...some directly from Discover Card who would never say where they got my telephone number. I suggested to them that when they extend credit to someone they ought to get a correct number. State finally interceded and Discover said they'd quit...wonder with these new recent calls whether they did indeed give up or just sold their file to these clever folks...
I am tired of them calling me.
Jerks call but Wont talk.. no clue who de doods are?
Caller (Julie O'Donnell) sounded very serious, professional and threatening. Left message which was supposed to sound like it was a legal matter and I was in Big Trouble if I refused to return the call (which I did). Prefaced the message by stating that if I wasn't the person who they wanted, I was to ignore the call. Stated CFG was calling in response to a complaint filed against me on July 25th, complaint #6289243 (which I will do a search later and see if I can learn what that is supposed to represent). Stated this was a very serious matter and failure on my part to comply by responding will seriously alter my ability to solve this matter voluntarily. Told to contact them or have my attorney call. If I don't, their client is prepared to go against me or something like that to the fullest extent of the law. Good luck, CFG.
stumbled, noises and then stated he was Mr. Miller with urgent matter, used up all courtesy extensions... has confirmation mail received at [home address]...
got a call at 0855 am this morning for someone that hasnt had my telephone number since 2/2005... at first, 'Mark' didn't believe me, then he suddenly hung up in my ear... star 69 gave the number as 8772982251, and on a return call, they answered the phone as Creditors Financial Group. I tried to explain that I had no business with anyone they were affiliate with, she put me on hold to check based on the number they had called and everything came back to the person they wer looking for, who hasn't had this numberr for more than 3 years. I demanded she remove us from her records, and cease and desist any further attempts to contact us... We'll see what happens. If they are as smart as the typical collector, I don;t hold out much faith in them. ASSholes.
877-298-2251 is creditors financial group located in amherst, ny...main office out of aurora, colorado....real assholes!!
Ummm...why are these people considered "rats"? Maybe you should consider paying the debt you owe?
said urgent matter, call 1-877-298-2251 ext.3380 mr.lick, This is for my dads debt. I hate be Ha
We have recieved numerous calls from these obnoxious and rude jackasses (darryl porter, sarah frazier, and dan "I don't have to give my last name by law"), looking for someone, who we never heard of, who happens to have the same last name. I've been told off, told how I should manage my family better, told to shut up while they are speaking to me, and threatened with harrassment if I called them back again, trying to get our phone number removed from their list. They have used different tactics, to try to get us to answer the calls,(time sensitive matters, they have spoken to these people, and said we would help them, etc..., It's all HOGWASH!!! I know it sucks being in Buffalo, but don't take your inability to do your job anger, out on the honest working people in Florida!!!
Voice message from the OFFICE OF DARYL PORTER, A TIME SENSITIVE MESSAGE.
TJ, could you type your message in something other than Martian?
My mom got a phone call from CFG, looking for someone by my sister's maiden name. They wouldn't tell my mom who was calling until my mom (unfortunately) told them she had a daughter by that name. (Didn't mention that she has been married for 20 years, lives in another state, etc.) So, as you probably be know, they keep calling her. I'm trying to figure out if there is anything that I can tell my mom to say to these idiots to get rid of them. My sister hasn't ever (to my knowledge) been the type to even have a late payment on her credit history. She's a tight-wad. I'm sure that they are looking for a different person. How would my mom convince them of that? Bullhorn into the phone?
Not true TJ......I have NEVER answered my phone for these idiots and they continue to call everyday at all times of the day....I just google the #'s that i do not recognize and ALWAYS find them on these websites with comments just like these...I'm beginning to think it's 1 company with offices EVERYWHERE and a million different phone #'s with employees who make commission by calling as many people in 1 day that they possibly can.....
They've called a few times looking for "Rodney Hayes" I have NO IDEA who that is, but they keep calling.
WEN U GIT A CALL THAT U DONT RECOGNIZE & U HAVE CALLER I.D. DO NOT ANSWER IR, USUALLY IF WOOSEVER CALLIN DOESNT MAKE CONTACT THEY WONT CALL BACK!!!!
recieving many calls from this area code. I answer by saying, "we are not accepting sales calls." Still getting calls.
Got the same recorded message as the 1st poster did. Don't press 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Something about increase in credit reporting on all three reporting agencys, congrats and press 2 to claim your rewards worth 2600...
New spin in message, now "Michelle" says "This call is for [name]. If you are not [name], hang up now." Gee, you are talking to an answering machine, how is the TADS going to hang up on you?
This company called one day and threatened to take my mother's house because she owes them money and I tried to be nice, and say "No, my mother doesn't own her own home" to which they kept replying "Yes she does, I have the paperwork right here." I said "Your paperwork is wrong, then." She kept being a real smartass until I finally snapped and said "Her home is mortgaged you b*tch, so go ahead, try to see if you can take the property away from the mortgage company!" and hung up. Now I just don't bother to answer.
just called me today few times. trying to scared me. i told them to fuck off . and that its not me they looking for. because i got this number for few months. probobly somebody with this number owns them money.
Hey, Scott... Go hide in a closet somewhere and get familiar with the business end of a 9mm... Youre a waste of DNA.
These chowder heads have been calling for 9 kinds of forever for someone who's name I cant even imagine the spelling of, let alone know. After the last call degenerated into a slew of threats and cursing - My anger got the better of me and I told the guy - I know where your company is, I know where you work, I know your business hours, your name and I have a pretty good idea of your ethnic BG. Call me again, and you will become very intimate with one particularly heavy member of the periodic table.... He was scared and a bit confused. Havent heard a peep since.
I have been trying to satisfy a debt with these people for two months but they have asked for an large amount of money at one time. I have done everything that these people has asked me to do including to apply for a loan to pay off my debt. When my loan was declined I was told I would have to pay them $100 for the next two months and the remained of the balance to be due in 2/08. The supervisor Mr. Diaz yelled at me. I called back to ask for a statement of my debt,stating that I have rights and was told "You have no rights when you stop paying your bills!"I was told to never call them back again and that they were red-flagging my account. I called back later to get the name of the person I had spoken to (Mr. Powell). I took down his name and hung up. He called me back immediately and told me that if I called them back they would file harrassment charges against me! HUH? So much for trying to get back on track with old debts.
Well, gee thanks, Scott, but my bills are paid. You best hope there's not another Scott with your last name out there who runs up bills with WellsFargo or BoA, as their skip tracers are lazy and incompetent, and give out info from the first google hit they find. The collection agencies then come and harass whoever that is unendingly.
Hahahahahahaha, good to see that there is a place where dead beat broke people come to complain... i may owe money, but damn, i take responsibility... if you shitheads would listen to what they have to say, you could settle your debt fpr about 25% of the principal like i did... idiots
I recieved a call from these people requesting me to do a service for them on my business phone answering service, it wasn't my line of profession, but he said that I may be able to help him, I returned the call and a receptionist answered CFG, bingo, I hung up and he called right back and said sorry I got disconnected, I have paid over half of the debt which they harassed me into when my debt relief service screwed around with me. I think it is sad that they have to resort to trickery to get you on the phone, I also sent them a do not call letter, certified and asked for a statement of my account which I haven't received yet!!!
Just received the call, the woman would not give her name - ext: 352. She told me that a formal complaint was possibly going to be filed and that I or my attorney should call her. I certainly know better than to return the call. I'm SO glad to see there are others out there, just as furious as myself. Good luck to everyone and your respective issues!
Said he was calling from the legal department of a collection agency handling an account for Best Buy.
They called this morning and I have lots of complaints.
8:30 my time, and it is vacation time so I was woken up by these people.
They were calling my private cell number.
They were calling for my mother-in-law, not me.
They told me way too much information about a bill that wasn't mine
They lied about being an attornys.
They wouldn't give me their name.
They would give me the name of the place she owes money to.
Said she has 72 hours to call back before they get a "judgement", I'm wondering what court will be open saturday, thanksgiving weekend.
And all this for a bill that was paid off long ago. how sad.
They've called me 20+ times, asking for some dude named Edmund Randall, I've told them a million times they have the wrong number, but they continue to call. A bunch of dumbasses. The last call was the best, asking me to give Edmund a message. What part of WRONG NUMBER don't you understand, jerks? Then jerk says "Well why did Randall give us this number?" How the F do I know??????
Here is the link to the information about this company. They are an unsatisfactory company according to the BBB. They have been known to threaten and harass the person they are trying to reach.
Got a call from this number from a person named Kim. Didn't tell me the company. Said she was calling about a "formal complaint" that was placed in her office. Gave a case number. Said that if I didn't respond in 24 hours that would result in a "recommendation". If this is a creditor, they are operating very illegally. First, they never mentioned the company name. Secondly, they're threatening. It is extremely illegal for credit companies to bully clients into paying. Thirdly, they threaten legal action which is, ironically, illegal. I'm pretty sure these people are the same company that called my friend and when she asked to speak to a supervisor, he got on the phone and the first thing he said was "Ok so what do you want me to pull out of my magical bag for you?" Extremely rude, unprofessional and ILLEGAL!!! I refuse to give my money to any company that would treat people like that. I don't care if it's my debt that I owe, you don't treat people like that. End of story.
Jim, Jim, Jim. You are an idiot and you obviously work for these dirtbags, or gad a phone call from them yourself- otherwise why would you have been looking up the number?
What a LOSER- and don't judge folks that can't pay. Some day you may lose your $6.00/hour job and then how will you pay the rent in the rat trap you probably live in???
lady called this morning and said i was a moron. lol Maybe she can get a real job someday
Had a message on my machine when I got home last week from a Carrie at ext 3304. She was calling for my ex husband and his GF about the breech of contract with her clients. Don't know how she got my number, my last name is my maiden name, AND I'm unlisted. Nice to know that my ex and his knocked up gf are having $ problems even tho he came rolling up in a new Cadillac CTS!!!
This is for Jim up in the previous post talking about who we are all finANCIAL TERRORISTS....Try getting laid buddy, it is a great stress reliever...and I HOPE U NEVER LOSE A JOB OR HAVE TO PAY A LOVED ONES MEDICAL BILLS.....ASSHOLE
Said a John Buxton named me as a witness in a lawsuit.
called looking for my brother claiming he had a case pending against him in new york state and he was a lawyer. my brother's from kansas and has never left the state.
ASS HOLES CALL THREATENING NEGATIVE RESULTS AND THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT OURSELVES IF WE DO NOT RETURN THIS CALL. THEY USUALLY CALL ME ON A FRIDAY. LIKE TODAY. AND THE STUPID S.O.B. PAUSED WHILE LEAVING A MESSAGE TO TAKE A DRINK, PROBABLY LIQUOR, THEN CONTINUED ON WITH HIS MESSAGE. COMPLETE UN PROFESSIONAL ASS HOLES, THIS COMPANY SHOULD BE KNOCKED DOWN. BESIDES, A BILL THEY ARE CALLING ON NO LONGER EXISTS! SO HA! WTF? MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL CALL THEM BACK WHEN WE ARE HAVING A BAD DAY AND JUST BITCH AND COMPLAIN TO THEM, AND THEN HANG UP. WE'LL FEEL BETTER AND WE WON'T HAVE PISSED OFF ANY OF OUR FAMILY OR FRIENDS. LOL
hey jim....shit happens! since your so well off, loan us some money. stupid holier than thou bastard!
Ever wonder where drug addicts, prison parolees, and newly released mental patients go? They become debt collectors....oh.....that's why they are BRAIN DEAD DIRTBAGS!
i cannot believe you people... pay your bills! you borrow money and dont pay it back... which is called stealing... and then wonder why people get pissed... you are the financial terrorists of america
loud cartoon deep voice character - an asshole
called harrassing a negative result if i did not call back before end of business today
Gave a case # and said I must return this call ASAP or have my attorny contact them. They said ignoring this message could mean they may have to file for litigation. I have not recieved a letter of who they are or who they represent.
This is the second time they have called me.
Sounded Stern and left a veary fast message, I had to play it three times to understand it all and get the number. Not going to call them back !! Too Bad Jerks, Hope they read this post and all others. :)
They are Trouble. Very annoying and yes threatening.
I am going to contact the police regarding this matter. what an unneeded stress!
This guy left me a very threatening message sounded like a real douche. He acted like was from a law firm so I looked it up and read all of these funny comments. DONT ANSWER!!!!
These nut cases called my house 3 times. They left a message on our machine for my wife, then me, then the third time they called my wife talked to them.. They were looking for someone else. I called them back and confronted them about this and they denied calling me, or having any information about me or my wife. They were looking for two completely different people. They were very rude, nasty, and threatening. The cunt that called was Mrs. Robinson. The number was 877-298-2251, a CFG or Creditors Financial Group. I started citing section 804 of the Fair Credit Reporting Act at which time the guy I talked to agreed to have our number removed.. The same number they claimed not to have called.
Word to the wise. If you owe these fuck heads money, IMO, do not pay them. They are assholes.
Person named John Reagan called looking for my son (who is in debt and not paying on it). He said it was a financial matter and could I get my son a message. I said no, didn't have a phone number or address. He VERY rudely said, "Your son, ma'am, I highly doubt that! You are a moron ma'am. I said, excuse me? Once I tell you that the person you are looking for, according to the law, you are supposed to say ok, and hang up. He replied, very sarcastically and rudely, The Law? What are they going to do, come handcuff me at work? You watch too much Dr. Phil.
I asked for his name and he hung up on me. He already had my son's number because he called him right after he hung up with me. He told my son that I was a real piece of work and told him that he needed to pay his debt in full in one week that he could get papers filed in one day.
DON'T TALK TO THESE PEOPLE!
Don't put up with it! If you owe money on a debt, go to www.creditinfocenter.com for info to help in dealing with rats like these. File a complaint (online, very easy) with state's atty. general against any of these companies that are harassing you and send the company a letter telling them to stop calling you. If they don't comply, they are breaking the law (FDCPA) and can be sued in small claims court.
This person did not identify herself but left a voice mail message saying that she was calling about "Ms. Wendy Lewis." Have had this phone number for over 25 years and there has never been anybody here named Wendy. Message said, "It's very important that this call is returned." Obviously, I have no intention of calling, especially considering what I've read here.
they call me everyday too same rude messages everyone else receives here
Left a message with the address of a house where I was staying for less than 2 months. Not my house, and I never had my name on any of it or any of the household bills, except to forward my mail there for a while. They mentioned me calling back or my representative and referred to a case number. This has got to be a scam.
Called and left messages at my home, hubby's cell and my X's saying it's an important matter and a ref number. We have no idea what for.
These assclowns keep calling me for a guy named Trent. I've had my number for over 8 months. They just called and the girl who calls me thinks I'm Trent and is telling me I'm going to court. Thanks again whoever you people are.
Got a call 8/18/07 from a Mr. Wilenko of CFG, New York wanting to talk to my hubby or his attorney. Gave a case number. His voice was stern, but not threatening. After checking Google, I found this site and wanted to add my input. Currently we have NO outstanding debts that someone should be calling about. I'll just hang up on him the next time they call. Or if they persist, I'll tell them they have to send the paperwork certifed by USPS and THEN I'll take it to my attorney for them to deal with.
Thanks for the feedback!
Jeff Maine says a complaint has been filed with his office. The firm has contacted him to obtain a statement. Call him back at 8772982251 x3337. Aug. 14. This message was not for me, unknown name.
This number has been calling me. The man was extreamly rude that talked to me. He was asking to speak to a man who I didnt know. I told him i didnt know. The man said that i had payments overdue. He also threatened to call law enforcements if i took no action. bottom line: THE GUY WAS AN ASSHOLE!
For the past 2 weeks they call at least once a day at home and leave intimidating, nasty messages - we had to turn off the answering machine. They even called me at work leaving a very nasty message saying I must contact them by the end of the day regarding the debt. They have been told to stop calling and send something in writing...haven't received anything. They say they are from a law firm!
THEY CLLD FRM 877 298 2251 SAID EAT SHIT AND PAY YOUR BILLS THEN HUNG UP
Cathryn Toller, she sounds like a man. said this is a time sensative matter and I need to return the call ASAP. Or have my councel or representative call him/her back ASAP.
First time call from them!
Caller ID said private name and number.
Number left was 1-877-298-2251
Made it sound all official and legal like.
CALL ME OR ELSE!!! STUFF
This guy was a total Prick. Used every pressure technique in the book. a real asshole.
I get calls from them too.
When I get there messages or calls, I delete the messages or don't even answer the phone. Eventhough we may owe, sometimes people, especially single parents have a very hard time taking care of bills, plus children. it's not easy and these preditor agencies need to put themselves in our shoes.
i worked for them for a few months. I am a professional low key debt collector that beleives in respect to the customer on the other end of the phone. I could not beleive some of the things I heard. Some wouild saty they were the mafia calling. If you get a call from a collector threating or abussive report then to your states attorney generals office. No one now matter how much they owe deserves this kind of treatment
They call and SCREAM into my answering machine! Of course I'm going to call you..........when HELL FREEZES OVER! One more call like that and I'm changing my number.
Mr McKenzee called looking for someone and said they better have their lawyer contact him IMMEDIATELY
They have called me a few times on my cell phone and left rude messages. I won't call them back and I won't answer there calls.
Scott sales called left message for a Carlos Garcia about his activity in 2005 Filing bankruptcy with HUB Enterprises that Carlos was a bum to get a job how did his mother raise him. "I have a job and my wife praises me!!!" What a dumb arse. I told him after 20 minutes that I was recording him “You didn't get my permission!!!" So now I have entered you and you will get a call at 8 am Monday until you PAY!!!! What a pool of sheeeet they are. Told me all about Carlos Garcia and I hope I find Carlos so he may SUE the crap outta these losers. I referred to him as Soupy Sales.
They call and hang up constantly! The one time I answered and asked who they were, they wouldn't tell me so I hung up on them. Guess what people.....that is the LAST TIME I will talk to you!
Simply don't answer the phone. If you acknowledge that you know the debt they're referring to, you start a new time line on your credit record for removal of this item. So if you can't pay it, don't want to pay it, etc., don't acknowledge the call. Then, at least, you can wait the 7 yrs for it to drop off your credit.
Never Help a Debt
Collector Rob You!
Creditors Financial Group **
3131 S Vaughn Way Ste 2110
Aurora, CO , 80014-3511
Web site: www.creditorsfinancialgroup.com
NEVER GIVE A DEBT COLLECTOR YOUR BANKING OR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION. MAKE THEM VALIDATE THEIR CLAIMS.
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“Investigator Shaw” wants you to believe he is able to take immediate actions against you until/unless monies are sent immediately to him. His illegal debt collection practices identically reflect the slimy Buffalo debt collectors that work at such disgusting locales as Lenahan Law Offices, Giove Law Offices, Collins Law Offices and Account Management Services.
Apparently owner Henry Swayze and Buffalo CEO Charles C. Nail are more interested in lining their pockets at the expense of unsuspecting consumers than following federal laws as “Investigator Shaw” broke damn near all of them.
My advice; Stay far away from this sleazy organization of collection agency rejects, losers and potential future prison inmates. Experience shows that they cannot/will not EVER file litigation because they are incapable of meeting even the most basic requirements of debt validation. If you are unfortunate enough to ever receive a call from “Investigator Shaw” just laugh at him because he is too STUPID to understand anything beyond DUH! What MORONS!
This was a low-profile collection bottom-feeder agency UNTIL they opened an office in Buffalo, NY which is home to the MOST disgusting, unprofessional, under-trained and illiterate debt collectors in America. Apparently CFG owner; Henry Swayze wanted to take advantage of the cheap labor, and high unemployment that Buffalo offers to the sleazy side of the collection industry.
Anyone who collects out of Buffalo can be assured that the law, the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (the federal law regulating the activities of the collection industry) is mostly ignored in the collector’s pursuit to make that commission paycheck. One such Buffalo collector using the name of “Investigator Shaw” at ext.#218 wants you to believe that he (an uneducated collector of debts) has the AUTHORITY to file a lawsuit against you, initiate a wage garnishment (even in states where they are prohibited) and file a lien against your property. This is all done in the name of a scavenger debt buyer who pays pennies on the dollar for a (mostly) worthless account that ONLY a bottom-feeder could get excited over.
10 Hazelwood Dr Ste 110
Amherst, NY 14228-2223
HEAD DEBT COLLECTORS:
Henry E. Swayze, President, Aurora, CO firstname.lastname@example.org
Charles C. Nail, Chief Executive Officer, Amherst, NY
Creditors Financial Group **
3131 S Vaughn Way Ste 2110
Aurora, CO , 80014-3511
Web site: www.creditorsfinancialgroup.com
NEVER GIVE A DEBT COLLECTOR YOUR BANKING OR CREDIT CARD INFORMATION. MAKE THEM VALIDATE THEIR CLAIMS.
I OWE THE PLACE, WERE ALL CROOKS
LEFT NASTY MESSAGE, LOOKING FOR MY DAUGHTER, VERY THREATENING, FIRST CALLED HER AT WORK, SEEMS TO BE A COLLECTION AGENCY.
They called for someone whom I have not been married to for over 11 years.
I also received a phone call on my cell with no message left. I didn't recognize the number so I didn't answer. They called from number: 312-279-0122 I called the number back and it IS the same collection agency!! So first they called my cell and did not leave a message, then they called my home phone. Both of my phone numbers are on the 'do not call' list. I don't know how they got these numbers of mine!
came up on caller id as: Creditors Financ...I answered the phone not realizing who they are and got a very friendly voice on the phone saying his name is Craig Osborne (he even spelled his last name for me)He scared the begeezers out of me talking very quickly about lawyers and judgements. I have no idea what he's talking about other than I know the bill he's referring to.
I have received calls from CF&G on my message service at work. Odd that the only calls I have received have been over the holiday season - dates are as follows: Dec 14 at 3:33 pm; Dec 18 at 2:16 pm and Dec 29 at 10:20 am. All calls are a female voice leaving extension 3301 and using a very stern voice. You know these people have no idea WHO they are calling and the circumstances involoved and sometimes for things that should have been settled a long time ago with the death of a said party. Some of us are still trying to keep our heads above water and refuse to go on welfare. Little do they know the next person that they "yell" at and speak nasty to will have a heart attack or stroke at work due too all their evil adn extremely rude demeanor and then they will be sued. Of course, I am preaching to the choir. Hope this type of abuse stops. Just because you do not see the person's face does not mean that you can abuse him and will never run into the other party. It is a small world and everyone's action affect a great number of people especially those of us in the public eye. Hope all had a great holiday season - oh what the heck at the risk being un-politically correct - Merry Christmas. Let's regain our American Foundation!! G-d Bless America.
This is an EVIL company. STAY AWAY AT ALL COST! DO NOT ANSWER THE PHONE!
This representative left me a very rude message. Had I not been experienced in collection calls, I would have called this individual back.
^ edit to post above.
They often use THREATS to make you set up a payment plan.
This is a Credit Collection Agency known as Creditors Financial Group.
They have a unsatisfactory record with the BBB in multiple states and often use you set up a payment plan.