The phone is ringing, and I don't recognize the number, All Caller ID says is, "NAME UNAVAILABLE".
Please help me figure out who is calling and what they want
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Majority of people pay their bills your comment is stupid and immature, if this was the case why is this scum bags always trying to collect debts that have been paid previously, what don't you get another line of work?? I love to sue scum like you
Attorney at law
You must be aware that this people must disclose their real number when calling you, they cannot show a fake Number or a 3 r 4 digit, that is now illegal under federal law, report them, also I do recommend you to do the same to them, they call you all the time, well call them block their lines, they pay for the 800 numbers they use so call them and leave the lines up, if we all did this ,then will see how long they would stay in business. If they can harass you, you can harass them as well.
Also when they call you and you do not answer, and the call gores to voice mail , many of them say that they are looking for you, and then give a pause for a couple of minutes then leave a message about you owning them money, this is illegal if they do this at your work, report this immediately to your local district attorney or to the attorney general, this practices are illegal and punish by law, their only intention is to make you panic at work, but it is illegal for them to call you at work as well.
First they must file a lawsuit, second they must server you, if you have not been served they can get a judgment, if they mail you a judgment immediately contact an attorney, as this means they faked your information including your signature, this is Fraud and is a felony. The attorney will put a stop to this farce and then sue the collection agency, keep records of their calls, time dates and if you can the messages, more if they treatment you and or your family, or they claim they will contact your work of neighbors all this practices are felonies and will be prosecuted by the attorney general or many attorneys will take this cases on contingency. If the company contacting you is treating you but they are out of state this becomes an FBI issue and it is as well enforced as a felony. Do not be afraid of this people the worse they can do is sue you and then they must win in court is no short cuts.
Fight back, you can stop this scan bags.
my message is this is my cell number please if you cannot use cricket's service 8566762676 is my number don't know who is the other numbers are
Actually as a financial advisor i am working in USA. Recently i got some calls from 866-488-4299 no. & the person was asking about some outstanding amount which i need to pay within 2 days. But it was not related to me better say i don't know anything about it. Then also that person called me up to recover his outstanding amount. It was very irritating for me. At last i got the information about that no with the help of ..
I received a call from a person that would not repeat their name. When I inquired as to their reason for calling, I was told that I had a "past due account" from 1991; when I requested information about who was seeking this "past due account" the caller stated that I owed money and needed to pay. I re-requested identification of the caller and the person hung up the phone. This is a scam and they are unruly and unconscionable in their methods to intimidate people. I hope that they are put out of "business" VERY soon.
We need to update the National Do Not Call list to specify when a robocaller system can be set up and when it can be used.
In case of national emergency, I can see a need for a RoboCaller.
But we cannot have a situation where any dinky little company trying to make money by intruding on millions of innocent
homes of their phone line, wasting minutes or even hours out of people's lives.
Debt collectors should use the postal system, not the telephone lines.
So if every innocent person on this board were to fill out a State Attorney's Consumer complaint, then that would cause
the people at TrueLogic to have to spend virtually all their time in just answering the mountain of State Attorney's filings.
The State Attorney's would likely contact the Federal people that TrueLogic has gone heywire and wasting the time of thousands to
millions of innocent people's time.
Robocalling should be made a criminal act and only used in case of National Emergency to warn people. Not to have moneygrubbs
wasting precious moments out of the life of innocent people.
So, if everyone on this board who was not a debtor, everyone file with their State Attorney, (easily done over the web),
then that would cut into the time of the people at TrueLogic, so much that all they would be doing is answering to State
And contact our Representatives and Senators to add on to the National Do Not Call List a addendum making RoboCalling a criminal
I have also started to receive these obnoxious robocalls. I owe no-one any debt and these debt collectors are
after someone who previously had my phone-number.
The best solution is to file a complaint with your State Attorney's office of Consumer Protection. These Robocalls are
running rampant over thousands of innocent people.
So file a complaint with your State Attorney's Office, provided you are an innocent victim,and the
State Attorney's office is on the web. They are easy to fill out.
True Logic will then have to spend time answering each State Attorney's filing.
And the State Attorney's Office has the power to close them down, because if they are abusing the time of thousands
of innocent people with RoboCalls, then they deserve to be shut down.
Also, there should be an adjunct law added to the National Do Not Call List. An addendum stating in what situations a Robo
Call can be performed.
We cannot allow any company to set up a RoboCall system and detract seconds or minutes of time out of thousands of innocent
They call 4-5 times a day, every day. I never answer. I have NO outstanding debt so they have NO reason to call me.
rec'd call stating this was an important business opportunity and to call 1-866-488-4299 and refer a 7 digit number- then disconnected. called them back to report this was a business they were calling and "who are you?" the reply was "Bay Area Credit". I asked who they were calling for and the name they gave was nobody I have heard of in the 5+ years I've been employed here. I was told they called this number in Feburary and spoke to this person. The # given was a roll over # in our bank of 5 ph#'s for the business. Told him not sure how they did that and reply was " well- someone has to work there- right?" (I could sense he was getting a little frustrated with me and thought I was BS-ing him) Then- after doublechecking the number, he told me he saw what happened- someone had transposed the prefix for the # they had, and that is how they got me. I was told our ph# would be removed. we'll see. would seem to me if this business is going to spam call people they should at least get the dang ph# correct. but- I'm sure you get what you pay for as far as employee's go. If someone else gets a call from these people and you truely don't owe $ - you may to call and confirm they have the correct ph#- I could see how this could happen- only one wrong digit and they get you by mistake! gotta remember they are chasing people that have skipped out on paying- so their tactics can be somewhat questionable. like scum "squared" LOL
these people are trying to get money for no reason. i'll bet they have a listing of people who have a debt and that makes us targets
excuse me "michelle" (previous poster)...but i get these calls all the time as well, and i am not the deadbeat you claim you are. we are in debt and i do recognize it, but i think this also makes us a target for calls that are not legit...no matter what any of you on here say. they are calling for no good reason...just to attempt to collect money. period.
got ANOTHER call, and decided to answer. obviously using auto-calling; when i answered, there was silence and as i was about to hang up, a hesitant-sounding girl said, "hello?" i told her, "stop calling here," then hung up.
just got a call--no name; just the phone number. i let it go to voice mail; no message left. going to check other links given.
Unfortunately, collection companies do not have to follow the laws of the Do Not Call List and can call you more than once a day if no one is reached. Once a person is spoken to another call cannot be placed to that residence that day. The best way to stop the calls is to write a Cease and desist letter to the company. They will no longer be able to contact you after that.
Recorded message left on voicemail asking me to call back and to reference number 10329140. When I called the woman who answered asked if I was Dorothy. When I replied that I was not, she apologized and said the call was for Dorothy. I advised her she had the wrong number. I have no idea why they called my number since I am on the National Do Not Call registry.
They call very early in the morning. usually before 8 am. EXTREMELY ANNOYING.
Beware, this company is a rip-off. They have been calling time and time again trying to get money sent to them for non-existing accounts. They target people that have had financial problems in the past knowing that may people that have been in that type of situation would just assume this is another past bad debt that they forgot about.
IGNORE, REPORT OR DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO BUT DON'T PAY THESE SCAMMERS......
JO, you seem to know everything about deadbeats and bill collectors, which means you obviously must either be a deadbeat of world class proportions or you work for these idiots that are harrassing anyone, deadbeat or not, right or wrong - so quit judging people you don't know and shut the %^&* up.
2007-08-03 JO 'STOP thinking that the "do not call list" applies to these people, it doesn't. they are bill collectors!! they won't EVER STOP, thats why they get hired to collect, they only way to get then to stop is to call them back and face the music, if you owe money then deal with it! stop whinning, boohoo, i owe money, and they won't let me get away with it! even if u owe from 10 years ago, they are going to get ya! i am tired of having to deal with bill collectors, becasue my new phone number use to belong to a DEADBEAT!!!!!!
This is a company called Bay Area Credit. I got a recorded call that said to call this number back and it gave me a reference number. They were looking for the person we bought our home from 3 years ago and apparently did some type of skip tracing to get my phone number based on the address. When I asked them not to call any longer, they said they would delete my number from their system but it could take up to 48 hours and to ignore any further calls. Idiots. Why should I have to put up with more calls because their system is poorly designed?
This company calls 3X a week on an account that is 10 years old! Faxed and mailed them a "DO NOT CALL ME LETTER". And they still dont listen!
Daily calls from this number with a message to call back with reference #. Haven't called them back. Nuisance
This number is for The Bay Area Collection Agency. They asked for somebody I never heard of before, and when I said they had the wrong number, he said they will not bother me again.
I'm not going to hold my breath...
I have received at least 100 calls from 866-488-4299. I answered it after about 20 just to see who in the world it was. The man claimed to be with NCO Financial and he was attempting to collect a 22 year old debt. I wrote down his address and told him that I needed to research my records but I was positive I had paid all my debts. While the calls continue I wrote them a letter (certified return recipt) requesting information about who originally owed the debt and a copy of "the originalcontract" and payment ledger to prove to me what I owed. I also asked that I too wanted to resolve this issue so I request that all calls stop immediately and all communication be carried out in writing. It has been alomost 30 days and while I continue to receive callas I have not received a copy of anything I alledgedly owed 22 years ago. They have inquired on my credit report.
Caller is a bottom feeder Collection Agency which used to be called TrueLogic Financial Services, but is now using Bay Area Credit Services. Same people run the new company.
They call constantly asking for people that have never lived here that owe alleged debts.
It doesn't matter if you inform them (repeatedly) that you do not know or have ever heard of the person they are asking for; they will just call tomorrow asking for a new person. I think most of the names are made up anyway.
after weeks of this harassment, and never being able to reach a human being when we tried to call back the number provided, we did some research and found the website and an alternate phone number for them, which got us directly to a human where we found out they were looking for someone who had our phone number years ago. THe number to reach a human in this company is (800) 697-1234 and their website is www.truelogicfinancial.com
If they are calling regarding the debt, they have to abide by state and federal fair debt collection laws. A letter telling them to cease, and to communicate only through mail or whatever source you prefer, is what they're stuck with. Send the letter registered mail and send yourself a copy, but dont open yours. If they contact you after confirming receipt of the cease letter, get yourself an attorney.
they call my number everyday at least 3/4 times including sundays. my husband is now in a nursing home and i do not need this harrasment. please stop them
I got a call today from this number and it was a recording asking how I would pay bills if I were even in an accident. I hung up and then called right back, and got the recording about it being a disconnected number. Obviously the REAL number is somehow disguised and linked to a fake one.
When Ilistened to the message it said "This is not a sales call, please call me at 866-488-4299 and reference this number when calling XXXXX" When I called back it said their office hours are from 8:00am to 10:00 pm. The message they left me came at around after 8pm PST, yet when I called at 8:30 , they were closed and I was to call back during business hours.
I think I have heard this # advertised late night on AM radio. I think it is a debt consolidation company. I dont have debt. I also signed up on the do not call list months ago!!!
they call me too. this is what i found out. WRITE a 'cease and desist' letter and if they continue, file a complaint. its a $1k fine!!
As reflected in the Denver/Boulder BBB on: 08/02/05 at 6:32 PM PST
BBB Reliability Report
This information is not authorized for sales or marketing use.
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True Logic Financial Corp.
7100 E. Belleview Ave. #308
Englewood, CO 80111
Principal: John Ruddy, V.P. Collections
Phone Number: 720-488-4299
Fax Number: 303-265-9544
Email Address: firstname.lastname@example.org
Web Site Address: www.truelogicfinancial.com
Membership Status: no
Type of Business: Collection Agencies
I think WE SHOULD HARASS them THERE'S 174 COMMENTS HERE. if 174 of us call them twice a day, thats 348 a day, 10440 a month, 125280 a year. What do you guys think
This company SUCK!!!! They need to close this company. They do not know the word "TAKE MY NUMBER OUT BECAUSE ITS NOT THE PERSON YOUR TRYING TO REACH". Fucking idiots.
It was an automated system stating: "this is not a sales call, please call 866.488.4299". I called the number and the automated system states to call back during 8-5 EST (mind you, it's 8:00 pm PST). It is "unknown" on caller ID and I am as well on the "no call" lists. I cannot imagine what would be on the other end if I called during business hours...disregard the message if you get the call.
I can't add much to what's been documented already but I've had the same experience with 866-488-4299; it's a robocaller reassuring me this is not a solicitation phone call. Last week Robo was a female voice & this week it's a male; I get one phone call a day & this is the start of the 3rd week.
I've been getting calls from this number for a couple of years now, they call several times a day. They leave a msg. and a reference number for a call back. Caller ID shows a different number.
From all the messages posted I get that they're True Logic Financial, a collection agency. Don't know what these yahoos want with me, I'm paying all my bills on time.
SO many people have the same problem, maybe we could do a CLASS ACTION SUIT! Keep us posted on the latest news. Thanks. lol
MAN!! YOU GUYS ARE DINGY, AREN'T YOU? this is a collection agency, and the "do not call list" doesn't applie in this matter, they have every right to call you. they carry old accounts, and if it has a limitation, and u contact them then u erase that limitation, you have to either put up with them, change your number, or face the music and find out where, who and what>? ROSE...you should post ur reference number on here, that was dumb!!!
I have received numerous calls from this number and a recorded message shows up on my answering machine. I have registered with the Do Not Call lists; I will notify the registry.
I keep getting messages from this number. The person has an accent that I can hardly understand. She just says that its not a sales call and to call back immediately and gives a 'reference number'.
I have been getting these calls 2-3 times a day for 6 months. Now they are calling at 9pm. I turned on my fax machine hoping that it would register as a fax line and remove me - no such luck, the calls just keep comming.
I get a call from this number almost nightly! They never mention the name of the company, the name of the caller (it is not a recording - there is a different voice each time), nor what the call is in reference to. They state that when calling I should reference #7834204. I never call them back since they don't identify themselves, nor do they identify me by name when leaving a message.
STOP thinking that the "do not call list" applies to these people, it doesn't. they are bill collectors!! they won't EVER STOP, thats why they get hired to collect, they only way to get then to stop is to call them back and face the music, if you owe money then deal with it! stop whinning, boohoo, i owe money, and they won't let me get away with it! even if u owe from 10 years ago, they are going to get ya! i am tired of having to deal with bill collectors, becasue my new phone number use to belong to a DEADBEAT!!!!!!
I have been getting many many call everyday,especially early mornings from these BILL COLLECTORS. I called then back they wanted (TERRY STEWERT).. i get many call from collectors from this person. this is a new number and town for me, and i don't know a terry stewart, they told me that this was a contact number he gave back in """1997"" 10 freaken years ago!!! WELL< they were nice and said that this number would be removed..I HOPE FREAKEN SO! and TERRY STEWERT who every you are! PAY YOUR FREAKEN BILLS!!! i am tired of being bothered by YOUR BILL COLLECTORS
I called Verizon Nuisance line this after noon. They told me it's from a company called Bay Area Collections. I called them and asked them to remove my number from their list. They were actually pleasant and said they would remove me. WE WILL SEE..........
They call every day all times of the day, and some times it is a computer generated call, and sometimes it is a person. I called them back to find out who they are, and refuse to give the name of the company. They have called every day for the past 2 months. I am tired of it.
These folks have been calling my cell for weeks(months). Same as others-important message, call 866-488-4299. Have not called. They call 1-3 times per day including weekends.
I just found "Paul's" last name. It is "Konkel". Call him up!
People! This works. My wife recieved 3 to 4 phone calls a day from these bozos. same info as everyone else. I noticed someone left the CEO's Home and Office phone number on this site. I called "Paul" Sunday morning! Got an answering machine. I left this message: "Paul, this is Joe. My home phone is ***-***-**** (he has it anyway). For months you have been leaving abusive messages for my wife. Please call back and we will talk about a few Federal Laws governing companies such as yours." I called 3 times that sunday, early AM, noon and 11PM. Gee, we haven't had a single call since then. It WORKS!! Call: PAUL'S HOME: 303-932-8718 PAUL'S OFFICE: 720-974-0715. Good luck.
I have recieved over 75 calls from this number with a recorded message. They call at all hours from 7:00 am to 10:pm. I have never answered the calls but they always leave a message of an "important nature". They need to stop
I have been receiving numerous calls from (866) 488-4299. I'm receiving calls on my home & cell phone. The calls start around 8:00 am suprisingly even on a Saturday. This is what pissed me off. The calls are constant & very irritating.
I received call today with no message and just a hangup.
They keep calling me also. Even if they were real they are violating the Fair Debt Collection Act. But it sounds like a scam too me.
A REP BY THE NAME OF MIA CALLED THIS AM TRYING TO GET PAMELA, ONLY THAT AT MY NO, THERE IS NO PAMELA. SINCE I AM IN THE NO CALL LIST AND THE CALL ORIGINATED FROM AN 866 NUMBER I SENSED THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG AND AS SOON AS I BEGUN ANSWERING HER I ASKED HER IF SHE COULD AT LEAST SAY GOOD MORNING.... SHE GROSSLY RESPONDED" I DON'T HAVE TO SAY GOOD MORNING TO YOU, IS PAMELA AVAILABLE?" I SAID, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR PAMELA?... I CONTINUE PLAYING AROUND WITH THESE IDIOTS THAT THINK THAT THEY CAN INTIMIDATE PEOPLE. I FELT THAT I HAD TO PUT PANELA'S SHOES AND I ASKED TO SPEAK WITH ASUPERVISOR. PATRICK WAS THE ONE IN CHARGE. ALTHOUGH A LOT MORE EDUCATED, HE SOUNDED SYNICAL AND AT NO MOMENT OFFERED TO BE EXCUSED. MINIMAL MANNERS SHOULD BE REQUIRED BY LAW. THE WAY THEY CONDUCT BUZZ MUST CREATE A LOT OF DISCONFORT, MEDICAL CONDITIONS MAY BE AGRAVATED AND EVEN DEATH.
WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES FOR THESE PYRATES?
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM EXPERIENCING A HEART ATTACK FROM THE PREASSURES AND THE NAUGHTY MANNERS THEY USED. ANY ONE KNOWS ABOUT PEOPLE DYING FROM THE DISGUST OF BEING CONTACTED BY THESE BEASTS FROM THE JUNGLE?
This certainly explains a lot about this company. This is from their own website on how they collect!
Collector Call Skill Training - TFC collectors are trained not to ask for money, but to “tell” a consumer what to pay and when to pay it. The difference between these two actions are minor on paper but are worlds apart in practice.
Check out www.truelogicfinancial.com -- the number is there on their web site.
Numerous calls. They don't leave a message.
They keep calling our number for someone we never heard of. They won't stop calling no matter what we say to them. There doesn't seem to be any enforcement action against True Logic for ongoing clear cut violations of Federal and State "Do Not Call" laws.
I've been receiving these calls almost daily for over 2 months. I just don't answer but it's getting very annoying! It always says the same thing "Please call this number regarding an important business matter. This is not a sales call."
Just finally called these RUDe people back and asked WHy they're calling my # 70 times a day (exageration). RUDE woman named Christina said they were looking for someone who hasn't had this # in at LEAST 2.5 years. I said (I'm female), "Do I SOUND like a LOUIS VASQUEZ to you?!?!" and she screamed at me. I shouted some obscenities back at her which she yelled over. VERY professional establichment they're running.
We'll see if the calls stop.
I have received calls from thsi caller everyday except weekends for 3 weeks. I called back from a different number and then had caller ID. THe man on the other end would not tell me who he was or what company he was with but continued to ask me what number they had called because the one I called from did not match his database. They are not getting info from me when they wont tell me who they are!
I do not believe its a collection agency. THis number 866-488-4299 has been calling our business number (a 1-800 number) for the last 2 weeks. They seem to be phishing and its a scam.
My mom has been getting calls from the 866-488-4299 number at 20 times or more in a week including Sundays. My mom is recently widowed and shouldn't have to deal with this. So I just called them, pretended I was her and as you all said, they were looking for someone else. I told them I am the only one living at this number and they said they would remove my number. We'll see..
I too got daily calls from this number. I finally called and refused to give the ref # until they id'd themselves. The woman then said, "We're calling for Lisa Cox." I said, "That's not me." She said they would take my name off the list, but she never told me who I was calling.
I'm ticked because it is my CELL phone they were calling and I NEVER give out that number except to friends & family. So, I think AT&T sold my # to them when it bought Cingular.
These people are annoying. I know it's one of "those" company that's trying to take advantage of people. But I'm getting calls like 4-5 times a day. Calling them will just encourage it and I don't know what to do.
100's of calls from these morons morning and nite for months now. I think I'll just start messing with thier heads, lol.
They say I owe them money on a credit card I have never even possessed. They even have asked for my social security number and I told them to get bent. Also told them to send me a bill. It never came, of course!
this number keeps calling and calling
Called my cell phone @ 8:20 a.m. and wants me to call this number back and i am on the do not call list.
keeps calling and calling
Simply call the 866-488-4299 number back and ask them what the call is regarding. They will then ask you if they have contacted "John Smith" in order to identify that they have the RIGHT number. Tell them NO... and give them a phony name. I did this and the operator responded, "It looks like we have reached you in error. I have no problem with removing your name from the list."
I received no more calls.
THEY HAVE CALLED EVERYDAY SINCE HAVING MY NUMBER CHANGED. THEY CALL LATE AT NIGHT AND IF YOU TRY TO CALL BACK THEY ARE CLOSED.
I should say
866-488-4299 (18 times - last at 8 am today)
866-383-0986 (35 times)
We are debt free and have been for years.
This number is for a Collections Agency and does not apply to Do Not Call Lists (they apply to Telemarketing and Sales calls only). The reason the messages are so vague is because they are not allowed to disclose too much information without violating the Third Party Disclosure laws. The easiest way to stop them from calling you is to talk to an agent and verify that they are calling the wrong person. If you continue to ignore the calls or refuse to speak to anyone then there is no way for them to know that they have incorrect information and the calls will continue.
For months this number appears on my caller ID, no name or other identifying info. They leave messages to "call them" and don't say why or who. I am not into returning calls that are 'blind'.
The recorded message "If you are this person...and on with the instructions. When you follow the instructions you go into another message to call another number.
Can't anything be done about people operating like this?
It's Truelogic....Which is actually kinda funny because they don't seem to have any.
There a Jewish debt buyer that tries to sucker people into paying "settlements" on typically valid debt that is usually outside of it's statute of limitations window.
I have received several calls from this number asking me to return the call.
called claiming I owe a debt for a credit card that was paid in full by cashiers check before I bought my house. claimed certified copy of cashiers check wasn't proof of payment. credit card closed over 9 years ago...
I just got a cell phone 2 months ago and these people have been leaving tons of messages on here look for someone whos name I cannot prounonce or spell, but I called the number back and told the girl who answered that I just got the cell phone 2 months ago and she told me who she was looking for and it so was not me and I told her my name and she said she would remove it from their list. Very nice girl.
After reading all the posts, I decided to call the number back to find out what's going on. Their normal business hours are 8am-10pm Mon-Fri, and 8.30am-4pm eastern time. It's 8.37am PT, and yet their office is closed.
THIS NUMBER IS A BILL COLLECTOR!!!!!
We have gotten 5 calls a day for the last 6 months I have told them not to call they keep calling. Finally found out it was not even for us. RUDE PEOPLE
Have been receiving their voice message stating this is not a sales call please call back. When phoned back it was regarding a person I've never heard of (obviously wrong number) and I asked to have my number taken off the list (it's a cell phone and its using up my minutes). This lady is very unprofessional and said that I should have thought of that before giving out my phone number!? What the heck? Someone obviously gave them an erroneous number and they are harassing me. And yes I am on all do not call lists.
Keeps calling. Sometimes leaves message stating "please call as. This is not a sales call." or something to that effect. Other times no message left. Never have returned call. Have no idea who or what they want. I am on the "Do Not Call" List.
I have been receiving calls from this number for MONTHS!! Today, I got 6 calls on my cell phone during my lunch hour. I own no debts and believe that if they were serious, at least a live person would be calling. They need to give it a rest!
Hey everyone we finally called back the number and got to talk to a person it is a collection agency and the person they were trying to reach at my number we did not know. They have said they will take my number of their list. so far no more calls so give it a try and call them back.
I am in California .At least once a day for past two months. Different times of the day. Female announcing it is important. The "TrueLogicFinancial" link posted on 2007-20-07 gives the 8664884299 (posted lower left link) as a debt collection agency.
How can you make them stop calling? They call me every day, three or four times a day.
have recieved close to 60 calls from this number any time of day or night have repeatidly hung up but they keep calling. Am registered on the no call list but appears they are still able to call.
How can we get the authorities to get the person(s) who are calling from 866-488-4299 to stop it? I keep getting this call on every Sunday at 8:00 a.m.
Receive daily calls including Sundays. No ID or reason for calls given. I have not returned calls. Did a "Call Block" on this number today through my phone service.
Get daily calls - including Sundays. No ID or reason for call given. I have not and will not return calls. I did a "Call Block" this morning on my phone service.
I'm on the do not call list on my cell phone and I'm getting calls from this number. There is no name so I don't answer the phone, then they don't leave a message. I've had this happen before and I think it's very rude. If they have any kind of business they wish to discuss with me, they should leave a name of the company and a person to talk to. I'm a bill collector myself and I do know the Federal Regulations.
True Logic is a collection agency, who has a nasty reputation with the BBB and the FTC. Send them a certified letter requesting no more calls, and in that letter, ask for verification of debt and if they violate that no more calls letter, you can call a lawyer and sue them!
been getting calls twice a day for over a week, robocalling on my cell phone. called ceo's house using # from this site and filed complaint with ftc, bbb, and do not call registry. we'll see what happens
Same thing here. Call 1-866-488-4299 with a reference number. Unknown caller. They have called me so many times that now when they call, I call back (because they will not stop calling until you call)and use just about every profane word I know until they hang up. I also tell them not to call my number any more but they do!
I have been receiving calls from this number for over an month now. The couple of times I answered it but now when I see the name I just hit cancel and hang up.
Day in and day out, they are calling for someone else at my number. I refuse to change my # and they are clueless. Give me a break.
TrueLogic is part of the ACA, and you can do a formal Ethics complaint. Follow the instructions listed.
TRUE LOGIC FINANCIAL,A COLLECTION AGENCY.
6 PAGES OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS COLLECTION AGENCY.
I have been receiving calls from this number every single day, including Sundays. They usually call 2 or 3 times a day. It always comes up as an unknown caller, so I do not answer. I would like the calls to stop.
Check into what your phone service offers. I have SunRocket.com and they provide a blacklist service. If I get a couple calls from scam artists like this I just blacklist the number. They get a ring and I get piece and quite.
They called us on a saturday and said nothing,after we pick up the phone (two rings)then we call them back no one home,call back "DICKS!!"
These people are so f-ing annoying! I am absolutely fed up with this. I receive calls from 866-488-4299.
Like many of you who've commented, I have impeccable credit and NEVER miss a bill that I owe. There is absolutely no way that I owe these assholes anything, and they have been calling me for over three months. They have woken me up just prior to 8 AM on Sunday mornings several times (the only day I get to sleep in!). I've had it, if there's truly a class action suit, I am going to get my lawyer to get me in on it, because this is HARASSMENT!!!
I receive calls from 866-488-4299, caller ID "TOLL FREE SERVI" nearly every day, including weekends. It's a machine that says that the call is about an "important business matter". Asks to press one to speak to someone or to call back - and it gives bogus reference numbers to call with
Just got a call from them. My policy is I don't care WHO you are; if you are so doggone lazy that you can't pick up the phone and speak to me...you want ME to take time out to call YOU...it ain't gonna happen!
2 days in a row - ringing at 8:02 am.
3 calls per day, every day but Sunday. Automated message every single time.
I have been receiving the call since last month or so. They called every couple of hours and I finally called them back. As many of you know, it was "True Logic (collectors agency)," when I told them I wasn't the one they are trying to reach they told me they would remove my number from their list within 24 hours.
That was simple!
I am in agreement - these calls, 100's of them, are insane! We are also reporting them to the do not call registry: www.donotcall.gov
DOES NOT IDENTIFY SELF-DOES NOT LEAVE MESSAGE
Since Sept./Oct. 2006, I get a message from this number about 4 times a week. It is SO incredibly annoying that I don't even answer my phone any more, but let it go to voice mail. When I first activiated my phone line, I used to receive lots of these types of calls, so I put my number on the national "do not call" list. Since then all other calls, except this number have ceased. I have not, nor would I ever call number, and I would advise that, if they do not tell you who they are and the purpose of their call, DO NOT CALL back.
I have recieved many calls on my cell phone from the 1-866-488-4299 number. It also says to reference the number 7377023 when I call. I called the number (not on my cell phone) and it let me tell them that they had called me as a mistake. Has anyone else been told to reference a number when you call?
When I answered, I just heard a recorded message saying they have an important message for me.
The national do-not-call web site explains that cell phone solicitations are not allowed and don't need to be on the list. Anyone know how to track these people down?
I've been getting at least two calls from "Unknown Name" 866-488-4299 everyday. I have caller ID and when I see the phone number I just don't answer. It'a a shame that you pay for phone service and have to put up with these anonymous calls. You know it's something fishy if they don't want their name shown on caller ID.
I have received 2 calls or more every day. Usually about 8 a.m. and
6 p.m. I do not pick up when this number comes up on caller I.D. I am on No Call list.
The caller asked for "Guy," my first name, and I said, "speaking."
Then the caller said, "Is this Mrs. XXX?" and I said, "No, she isn't home right now."
Then the caller said, "Is this Guy XXX?" and I said, "I am sorry, you have the wrong number."
I figure if they can't figure out that the name Guy is a guy, then they don't really need to talk to me.
Sounds like a scam when you call their number back, anyway.
It has been two months since I last reported them. They still call everyday on my cell phone, even on the weekends. How do I make them stop!?!
calls EVERY morning.
i am listed on the do NOT call list.
DEBT COLLECTION AGENCY AGREES TO PAY $140,000 CIVIL PENALTY TO SETTLE CHARGES IT VIOLATED DEBT COLLECTION PRACTICES ACT
In addition, the FTC charged that Allied contacted consumers at their places of employment even after they knew that the consumer's employer prohibited such contact.
a debt collector may not use obscene, abusive, or profane language; or contact a consumer at inconvenient times
A law firm in Sacramento, Ca is assisting consumers on how to file complaints with the FTC against this collection agency specifically. Its going to be huge when it happens all at once. Save your phone records, as you may be contacted in the near future.
I got a call from this number labeled private caller 720-488-4299 claiming the call was regarding an important business opportunity at 4:12 pm. I am registered with the do not call national listing.
I had been getting these calls too, as soon as had gotten our new house and new phone#.I just called the 720-974-0386, and asked to speak w/ rep. She asked for # they were calling, and were looking for someone who was not me! She said she would take my # off their call list; so we'll see if she does!!
2 Calls a day from these folks for months. After reading everyone's comments it looks like no end in sight.
Been calling about every day for weeks! I dont answer - a pain in the butt.
I have been receiving calls from these people once or twice a day, seven days a week for about six months now. I tried telling them that they had the wrong number, but the man that I spoke with told me that he would call back and that maybe I would be more honest. He tried to tell me that he spoke with the person he was looking for at my number before. Bull. The person they're looking for does not live here. They call from an 866 number with an Unknown Name, a 720 number that says Private Name, and a number that comes up Blocked. Sometimes it's a man, sometimes it's a woman with no accent, but lately it's been a woman with what sounds like an Indian accent. This is ridiculous. This is over 180 calls from them now. I just tried calling them back and entering my number to be removed. We'll see what happens...
These calls started at the end of January 2007 and have been just every 72 hours ... saying "this is not a sales call ... call me at 1-866-488-4299" ... then the same reference number is repeated ... sounds like an East Indian females voice now (3/19/2007)
They have been leaving a message every day for the last week. How do I get them to stop calling?
For months I was getting "unknown" calls from this number. Now, for the past week, I have been getting calls that show up on my caller ID with the same number, but now it says Truelogic Finan under the number instead of the usual "unknown". I answered one of the calls before, and it was a automated message. I never bothered to listen to the whole thing because it can't be a very important call if a human being couldn't take the time to make the call themselves!
I keep getting calls from these jerks as well. All hours of the day...any day of the week. Today the caller ID showed 720-488-4299 instead of the normal "Unknown". This time, robovoice was a woman with the usual message.
I called the 866-488-4299 # and they told me they're trying to reach a Mr. Singh. The lady promised I won't get any more calls from True Logic...we'll see if that's true.
I have recieved calls to call this number daily for the last 3 months on my cell phone coming in as unlisted caller.
I have been called by this number twice now. They didn't leave a message and I have NEVER been sent to collections for anything and have near perfect credit-it's getting annoying!
My 12 y.o started receiving calls days after she got her phone, only 8 wks and over 30 calls.
Called us yesterday. Husband returned call, they were looking to collect a debt on my ex boyfriend's brother who has been DEAD for over NINE YEARS! My ex hasn't even lived here in 8 years. These people are pathetic.
Just called the number back to request removal and they give you an option of having your number removed. They said it would take two days. :)
I receive calls from this number (866-488-4299)concerning an important business matter. They call at all times of the day and night even though we are not on the donotcall list.
I received about 7 calls from this number, three in one evening. Called and told them I was on the do not call list. They said they were looking for a "Donald Wolfenbager" or something like that. I told them they were way off and that my number should be removed from their list immediately. They said they would take the number off.
The "agent" answering the phone answered it "True Logic".
i am a deadbeat just like the rest of you. collection agencys are not bound by no call lists. the only way to stop these calls is to pay up.. and i refuse !!!
Wow, it is good to read all these accounts. We've been getting calls from them for quite a while, 877 337 3099, reference #5326722, POB 4437, Englewood, CO 80155. They're looking for Troy Davis, the previous owner of our phone number. I have told them on numerous occasions that we are not him, don't know him, don't know how to contact him, and to remove our number from their list. I finally called them back, angry. I lowered the boom on the first real person who answered. From what I read here, he deserved it. I will file complaints at the web sites, thanks. I'll also do the spam trick, nice touch! Thanks for the alternate numbers too. I suggest setting up the computer to use one of the 'calling cards' you can purchase inexpensively at any convenience store. That way they will get doo doo as the callback number. Takes a little time to set up but the satisfaction will be worth it.
They left a message with an account number and the message said it is not a sales call
I've gotten phone calls from this number every morning so far this week. It comes up as "Unavailable" on the Caller ID. They leave a message telling me to call back with a reference number. The person just called me, and an actual person was on the phone asking for an Omar something. No one of that name lives here or has ever lived here. When I asked if he was the 866 number that always calls here, he said that he has an 877 number. It's so annoying because he mostly calls around 7-8am, when I'm getting my last minutes of sleep.
We have been getting calls from this number for months on a daily, even twice a day, they don't say who they are, they just say it's not a sales call and tell us to call 866-488-4299. They don't indicate who they're calling for either. It's very annoying!!
I get calls every day with no caller ID that get through my anonymous caller rejection (ACR). They ask for me to call 1-866-488-4299. I called AT&T and they advised to not call the number. She metioned that the scammers can get through the ACR and have a way of tranferring the call to a 900 number and the call is then charged to you. And it won't be a small charge.
I have been getting calls from these people for 3 weeks - on my cell phone! When I called the # (from a blocked #) it said to press 2 if I received the call in error. I did so and it told me to enter my # and that it would be removed from their phone banks in 2 bus. days. Of course, now that I looked online, I'm afraid they will use that as verification someone is at that number and never stop calling.
They've called me 7 times so far this month. Quite obnoxious!
1st, verify they are calling the wrong number - if it is YOU they are looking for the call is LEGIT, ask WHO they are looking for and WHY they are looking for them.
2nd, dont argue with the person who called you. ask for the Floor Supervisor, dont back down. They are required by law to transfer you immediately.
3rd, inform the Supervisor that they have the wrong number and tell them to remove you from thier list - they have 24 hours to comply. Tell them you are going to file a complaint with the FTC and FCC anyways; and follow thru! www.fcc.gov & www.donotcall.gov & www.ftc.gov
The annoying calls will stop - if you follow thru. If you dont do this, then you have no right to complain about annoying calls.
Remember - they need the FCC's approval to use a 1-800 number and Telecom resources, if they abuse that, the FCC taketh away. And beleive me - they do.
They need the FTC blessings to do business and do "collections" across state lines, and if they abuse that priveledge, the FTC will pull their license.
After Googling the PO Box given when I called this number and finding this site, I called them again, and entered the reference number they provided. Their agent identified themselves as being with TrueLogic, and asked for an "Alan Wing". I politely informed them that I did not know that person and that he had not had this phone number in the several years that I have had it. They politely informed me that I might receive one more automated call, but none after that. We'll see.
uninvited caller 16:55
I've been getting calls from this number for weeks now. The same recorded message saying to call them back. Not likely.
This is a DEBT COLLECTOR.
They are looking for a person who they believe owes them money.
If you are not that person, tell them so, and they should stop calling.
If the calling persists, report the matter to the agency in your state that handles consumer protection/fair credit.
After receiving numerous calls, I finally called the number provided, hoping to stop the nuisance. In my opinion, they are definitely a collection agency. We have lived in our home for over 3 years - and have had the same phone number for the same length of time. During this time, we have received numerous calls from different parties looking for the same Robert M******. Our phone number evidently belonged to Bob before it became ours. The person who answered when I called identified himself as "Tony Smith." I let Tony know that his calls were not appreciated.
I have received the same calls everyone else has been receiving. I finally called to see who it was. I was told that they were looking for someone who doesn't exist at this number. They promised to take my number off their list. Only time will tell if they do so. I am also on the Do Not Call Registry.
They keep calling my cell phone and I don't know how they got this number. It's not listed anywhere and only my friends have the number! They call all day long! And this has been going on for weeks.
uninvited caller 18:25
If you have a land-line - Just use your fax/modem software on your computer and set it to repeatedly call the number that they tell you to call. It's an 800/877 number so you won't be charged. Don't forget hook the modem up to your phone line first!
For every call they recieve at their 800/877 number, they have to pay. It can turn out to be quite costly for them tyo continue their scams/harassment if wnough people do this!
uninvited caller 15:45
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uninvited caller 16:40
Like a lot of the reports on here, we have gotten at least one call per day from these people. I had another one that called the same way for several weeks before this one. I called them and they answered as True Logic. I did get their address as P.O. Box 4437, Englewood, CO 80155.
The call didn't go much further after I told them I was on the Do Not Call list, and the guy told me that they aren't restricted by the DNC list. That's when I told him to F*** Off.
If you want to call them I suggest using *67 before dialing their number. The DNC registry states that a company that receives an inquiry can call you for 3 months following the inquiry. So, by you calling them to get them to quit calling, you have made an inquiry, and have opened the door for them to keep harassing you.
BUT, the DNC site also says that they MUST quit calling if you request that they stop.
I suggest filing a complaint if you're registered with the DNC list.
Then call and jerk them around if you want.
After this, I'm calling my phone company to make a complaint about them and see if there is anything they can do.
Numerous calls with a message about "an important financial matter". I called to complain and they said they were looking for a Dan Wilson - a name curiously close to my name. There has never been a Dan Wilson with this number. Furthermore, I have answered several calls where they claim to be seeking Dan Wilson. This is a new residence, so my quess is they use phone record of new listings to look for names close to the ones they are seeking. I think it is a collection agency, although they refused to confirm that for me. One revenge strategy is to plug their toll free phone lines with fax calls. An automated fax service will just keep calling and calling. There has to be a price to be paid for bothering people.
Carol has been getting calls from this number at least twice a day for two weeks now.
We get calls 2-3 times a day. They call morning and night. I spoke to someone and told them they had the wrong number. They continue to call with the same recording.
I have been receiving calls from them for several days now. They leave the same message everyone else seems to get, and I have no idea how they got my number. My cell phone company said they can't do anything to stop the calls, so I am going to try contacting my state attorney general. Does anyone know how to get the calls to stop?
I've been receiving calls on a daily basis from True Logic. I called them 3 weeks ago to find out who they were and what they were calling about. I spoke to some unknown who answered and she said they were calling my cell phone looking for a Deanna F.
I explained that that person did not have this number and I have had it for over a year. Than asked if they could stop calling. But here it is three weeks later and I am still receiving daily calls.
So today I called again. Patrick, the "Floor Supervisor," finally came on the phone and said they have no record that I called before and that they would not reimburse me for all the calls they have made to my cell. When I asked for his supervisors number, Patrick said he didn't have it and that supervisors were not given it. Whose leg is he pulling? Sure wasn't mine! And can almost guarantee a call tomorrow from them!
These toads called "with an important message" and said to call back. She had a heavy asian accent too...Ughh!!!
These guys are truly annoying. I have explained to them twice that I am not the person they want but a little time goes by and they start up again.
I think I know what CRS stands for: Can't Remember Shit.
It's annoying enough to get these calls every day, but then you try to call them to get it stopped and they treat you like crap... and still call. They obviously have the wrong number if they are bill collectors. Do I have to get rid of my home phone to get some peace?
Have received repeated calls asking me to call back and enter #6228022. Very annoying.
I got their call today at 8:45 A.M. It came up as Trulogic Financial on my caller ID. So I answered it because I own a mortgage co. and know it's illegal to call people that are registered on the DNC list which I am. When I answered, it was a machine saying to call this number and gave me a reference #. I immediately called back and got some lady with an attitude. They had my phone number which I've had for over a year now registered with someone elses name. I still thinks it's some type of scam. I've never received calls for the individual they mentioned since I've lived here. With that in mind, if anyone needs a home loan, email me at email@example.com. I'm licensed in 38 states! Have a good day!
We have gotten calls from these people for over a month! Absolutely ridiculous since we are on the no-call list.
Received multiple calls from this number and from 720-974-0386...
HE IS THE CEO OF TRUE LOGIC.. PAUL@HOME 303-932-8718 HIS OFFICE 720-974-0715 AND THEN FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE FTC+BBB
I get 2 calls a day 7 days a week from a girl with an accent telling me to call 866-488-4299.The number that shows on my phone is 720-974-0386. Under that is truelogic Final
When I reach a collector they ask for a Judy. I tell them that I have called this number 8 times now and each time i tell you there is no Judy here. I have this number for 6 years and this Judy used my number on a loan.Its a number she just picked as her home number Please remove my number from your auto call machine. Each time they tell me they will but then the next day i get another call. At what point is this harrasment? Can I take them to small claims court to make them stop?
today is 12-30 they called today ay 2:15 pst
Got several calls in the past two weeks from this company and twice today (12-30-06). It turned out to be a debt collection agency calling to try to collect on a 13 year old debt! I told them they are not getting anything from me as it exceeds the Statute of Limitations. The caller ID said PRIVATE with the 720-974-0386 number.
They call everyday sometimes twice and three times a day. Just tell me they have a very important business matter to discuss. Please Call 866-488-4299 reference #------.
They don't give you a name of the company. When you call back they want your information up front SS# DOB. When asked what this was in reference to they told me they needed my information first. I told them I was not giving my SS# to anyone I did not know. Very RUDE man said he would just keep calling back. How can you get these guys to stop if you don't know why they are calling or who they are? Something smells rotten about this.
These people have called everyday, several times a day for the past couple weeks. I finally stayed on the line and was connected to an agent who was VERY evasive about a matter concerning my mother. I told them she was out of town and I was handling her bills, etc. I can understand that they may not want to divulge the information to me, but I'm curious as to why they have not sent ONE piece of mail regarding this matter. They may be a collection agency, but I think there something shady about it.
Got an automated voicemail from these clowns on my work cell phone. Automated machine dialing to a cell phone is illegal per Title 47 U.S.C. 227
Not sure why this place is calling me and think it is a nuscance that they won't leave a message reguarding why they called just a reference number.
Call my cell phone almost every day! Shows up as Private #.
Recording says the phone # to call is 866-488-4299.
Verizon said they can not do anything and this using up my minutes. Is any way I can do anything about this? It's so annoying and i feel so helpless.
Call almost every day! Shows up as Private #.
Recording says the phone # to call is 866-488-4299.
We have gotten many calls asking us to call 866 488 4299 for an important business opportunity. How can we stop these annoying calls?
These jokers call everyday on my cell which I do not give out to anybody but family and a few select friends. They never identify themselves say it is in regards to an important business matter. I realize that they are probably debt collectors however I have no outstanding debt. I had a hospital stay this year but I have settled that debt with the bill collectors involved in that. Also those bill collectors had only my land line phone # as far as I know. I have all the reciepts to back up the payments made and the collectors I dealt with identified themselves. I'm getting tired of this and want to see these jokers prosecuted.It says on my cell that they are calling from 7209740386 and on the message it says to call 8664884299 it also says to reference code 5874352.
They never made a call, instead, they always left a voice message saying I should call back to this number with the case number: 587-****. I do not know what they are doing.
Second time this week that there is no one by the name they want at the residence they called. They promised to take me off of their list.
You do understand that truelogic is a collection agency and does not have to follow a do not call list. The easy way is to answer the call and tell them who ever they want doesn't have that number, worked for me.
they call from Denver or a Denver suburb. Have been calling me every day for the past week.
A voice recording tells us to call this number and gives us a reference number to call. It is an important business matter and not a sales call. They call all hours of the day and even as late as 9 pm. We are on the do not call list. They never state whom they are trying to reach...just a numer to call , which we havent.THEY ARE VERY PERSISTNET.
Somehow these guys got my cell number and began harrassing me with automated messages EVERY DAY. (I'm also on the "DO NOT CALL LIST). I called the number back and spoke with someone who is trying to collect a debt that is over 15 years old on an account that I was a secondary person on. Apparently they couldn't get anything from the primary, who is the one who owes the debt, so they're harrassing me. I've asked SEVERAL times for them to stop calling, but they refused, even though by law I'm not required to pay the debt since it's so old, but I ended up having to get my number changed. They acknowledged that the debt can no longer affect my credit, but they threatened to ping my credit nonstop with inquiries, which do effect my credit score.
I have told these people that the person that they are looking for (my ex) no longer resides at this number and yet they continue to call. The last call recieved was on 11/12/06
I keep getting calls from "Private" or (720) 974-0386 with a computer telling me to call back about an important matter to (866) 488-4299. It is pissing me off.
Received a call from these jokes. Have no idea who / what they are calling about. Seems they are calling for somebody who doesn't exist and has never had my phone #.
We'll see what happens when "they remove my number"
i have been getting a call to call back this number with a ref number from the day my phone was registered and started working!! I have not called them back. Today I decided to google this num,ber and found this site. Only difference is that I get a caller Id (most of the time) as 7209740386
A "Brian Sayler" from True Logic Financial called to inform me that he needed to talk to my father (who died in 1979), about a "financial matter". After I told him that he was dead, Mr. Sayler said that "he would just call back"! I was surprised to discover that my father had become one of the "un-dead" - even with his old telephone number on the "do not call" list!
Yet more calls (daily!) from these yo-yos. Always the same recording, giving only a reference no., not identifying who they are or the name of the intended party. I have NOT bitten, but I HAVE reported to tel. co., BBB, and Do Not Call. Many, many scam reports show up at other sites as well. If there are that many of us getting these RoboCalls for nonexistent/zombie/phantom debts, perhaps the media would be interested (My TV market is too small for the 1 local station to have an "I-team" or "Help Me Howard" type feature)--?
It's a debt collection agency - if they reasonably believe that you owe a debt placed in their office they can call you regardless if you are on the Do Not Call list. Simply let them know you are not the person they're looking for and they'll stop - they probably don't want to waste their time if you're not the person they're looking for.
0830 every morning for the past two weeks. Same message. Call the number. Reference number is given. These people are debt free. And I do mean debt free. And yet THIS place calls them?? Please.
I've been receiving these once a day for the past 3 weeks, I am also on the "do not call list".
I recieved calls twice or three times a day now for the past 3 or 4 weeks. This has got to stop! The "Do Not Call" people will be hearing from me soon.
Despite "Do Not Call," we have gotten 2 calls in the last 36 hrs. from a Robocaller to either press "1" or call 866-488-4299 concerning "an important business matter" I Googled the # 1st & got this, as well as a # of sites that said that this # was for a "TrueLogic Financial Corporation," apparently an extremely sleazy collection agency. If they can't be bothered to tell me who they are and what they want, why should I take my time to call them??
Other steps you can take to combat harassment by this company include filing a better business bureau complaint at complaint.bbb.org and filing a rip-off report at ripoffreport.com
We have now received almost 100 phone calls from this place and they refuse to stop calling until they talk directly with my husband. I have reported the violation to the do not call registry www.donotcall.gov Please add your complaints too!
googling this phone # led me to www.ripoffreport.com where someone at this # told the complainant that she owed money for a nonexistant account. There were many other scam reports from different sources concerning TrueLogic/Palasades Collection
My uncle has been receiving calls from this #, and hearing a recorded message asking that he call (866) 488-4299. Of course he didn't.
I don't know whether he is on any do not call list, but it's likely that he is.
We have recieved numerous calls giving the message to call this number about an important business opportunity. There is no number listed on our caller ID it just says "Private".We registered on both the Kansas and national "No Call" lists.