Who Called Us

Jeff, your DNC complaints are wasted effort, as already discussed in this thread four months ago. You also have FDCPA violations based on type of call and type of phone reached, possibly more no-nos under TCPA, another useful thing you would realize by now if you’d done your homework. Take your dispute directly to CMS on a paper trail if you want true satisfaction. Submit your complaints to the FTC and attorneys general if you want the right desks.

PS: I plan on filing a new complaint every time this number shows up.

Robo-called the 14th of Feb 2011, a human did answer on the on the 16th and said that they would remove my number. Robo-calls the 17th and 18th of Feb. No more calls until the 15th of Mar. Have just filed five complaints with both federal and state do-not-call registry.
Would not be so bad if they called my home number, but my cell has limited minutes.

ABC, a determined enough collector will jangle your phone all week whether you answer or not. "Most of us" get unfairly racked up on default judgments and wage garnishment because the collection industry counts on people not to defend their rights. How is that a lesser waste of money and time than Certified mail fees and a little vigilance? Statutory fines for breaking TCPA and FDCPA and state laws are paid out every week to ordinary consumers who think the relatively minor effort involved was a good tradeoff for simply allowing more abuse and grousing at the wall.

JLH, rogue collectors do "deserve" and almost beg for "the FTC process", if by that you mean complaints to them and attorneys general. But on the 23rd I was clearly not advocating resting there but making a direct confrontation, as I generally advise. By the way, the FDCPA says "consumers" can demand cease-comm and punish disobedient agencies. It does not say "debtors". It does not say a debt claim must be valid or invalid. If not for that distinction, the worst American collectors would all change their business model to making up claims out of thin air like the overseas payday crooks.

I caution against cursing and fuming at collectors for a good reason. They are likely recording every second of every sound you make. If the dispute reaches a judge or arbitrator, you want ideally to show _they_ lost composure, _they_ got hostile and broke laws, while you kept calm ..... lest the agency counterclaim YOU for abuse. I know, a hilarious thought, but you're dealing with a barely legal industry half full of substance abusers and jailbirds, capable of any madness.

The best thing to do is totally ignore 800/866/877 calls. If it's REALLY important they'll leave a message which you can choose to listen to or not. (I usually end up hitting "delete" after a few words when I realize it's garbage.) I ignore ALL calls unless it's from family or friends/numbers I know. No other calls are EVER answered. You answer them once, the scum suckers keep calling. NEVER answer and they give up in short order. For most of us, Resident's suggestions are a waste of time, energy, paper, and money.

Resident47, the first thing you must do is mind your own business!
These people, because they are scammers and thieves, do not deserve the FTC process, which would not make them stop anyway. The only legal way is a lawsuit which is a waste of time when there is actually no debt involved.
SO GET OFF YOUR CONDESCENDING HIGH HORSE AND LET PEOPLE VENT OFF WHEN THEY WANT.

JLH, the first thing you must do is calm down and remove emotion from your dispute with CMS. They _want_ to get under you skin. If they have a possible claim on you, make them validate. If they don't, send a cease-comm. Do this all on paper. The FTC and many consumer watchdogs explain how. Document all calls; you will need the records if you are forced to file suit.

Julie and Cole, don't join JLH in making empty complaints. Read the rules as I'd suggested here two months ago and _make_ the calls stop.

Wendy Higgins- Transworld Systems left message on cell phone with caller ID and to call back. I just want her to stop callilng.

I received a call from this number, from Wendy Higgins, Trans World Systems. They gave me an Id # and wanted me to call them back. Sounds like a scam to me. I want them to stop calling me.

I've received 3 calls to my cell phone starting 12/28. I don't answer. I got the cell # in October.

SCUM COLLECTOR OF FAKE IN-EXISTENT DEBTS. OBVIOUSLY ILLEGAL.
THEY CALLED ME FOR TWO YEARS EVERY DAY AND STOPPED AFTER I CURSED THEM OUT THREE TIMES.
NOW THEY JUST STARTED AGAIN AFTER A 6 MONTH SILENCE.
IGNORE THEM OR WHEN THEY GIVE YOU A NUMBER TO PRESS TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY, PRESS IT AND CURSE THEM LIKE "FUCK YOU ASSWIPE"
THAT STOPPED THEM FOR 6 MONTHS.
WISH THEY WOULD COME TO MY DOOR. I'LL SMASH MY CROWBAR ON THEIR DERANGED BRAINS.

Syn: CMS has no chance of collecting discharged debt, but their ilk try it all the time. The mere fact of CMS being contacted by your lawyer should by law have stopped the calls, so now you have another violation to sue over. Maybe a third depending on the nastiness level of their calls.

The illiterate and hostile backlash from collectors and industry apologists is seemingly a required annoyance on these forums. They do at least provide a window into the thickheaded and predatory attitudes alleged debtors must face, one which the "Pay Youse Bills" cranks would do well to peer into to learn just how ugly and lopsided collection activity can get.

To answer a few confused entries, the DNC registry is for telemarketers, meaning sales. Debt collectors are therefore exempt. This was made known to you when you registered your numbers.

If you are receiving repeated, misdirected, and/or abusive calls from a third party debt collector, you may, like Syn here, find relief in the provisions of the FDCPA, the Federal law which regulates collector behavior and provides you simple tools for your own defense. It grants you control of how you are contacted, and collectors can be sued for their crimes. Learn your rights and first response tactics at FTC-dot-gov. See also your state laws for additional support.

And to "Sick of Debtors", and "Collector" .. the language the pair of you use in your little rants here only prove the general consensus which is that debt collectors are truly scum of the earth. I'm getting called and harassed about a debt, which was owed by my now deceased spouse.. and which was discharged by a Chapter 13 Bankruptcy that I was forced into following his accidental death thanks to a drunk driver.

This was FOUR YEARS AGO!!!

And now out of the blue, whoever these people are .. they now call me at all hours day and night, leaving nasty voice messages and refuse to accept the legal documents from the courts declaring the debt as having been discharged.

They, and you, are pond scum and frankly.. people like YOU should have been the one to die in that car.. not my husband!

I hope you and every last debt collecting loser like you.. die in agony..

Craptastic bill collector. Trying to convince me I have to pay a debt that was covered by Chapter 13 bankruptcy 4 years ago. Have sent the idiots at this company proof from court documents that the debt was written off by the Chapter 13, actually my lawyer did so.

Now, with yet another EIGHT messages just today from these scam artists.. I've copied the nasty calls and will be dropping off with the lawyer so that we can proceed against them in court for fraudulant attempts to obtain payment after the debt was discharged by Chapter 13.

These people are the true scum of the earth. I had to file Chapter 13 after my husband was killed in a car accident.. these pricks purchased the debt apparently from the original source of the debt after it was discharged.

Not my problem.

This is a collection agency. If they are harrassing you over a debt you owe, there are ways to deal with it to make it stop. If you ignore it will not go away. myfico.com has a debt discussion board with lots of information. If it is a medical debt you owe, google why chat credit confusion, helpful legal info. These co's are suing for old debt now. best not to ignore (but don't answer)

If you do not owe a debt and they are looking for people who are NOT you, you can write them a cease and desist letter, demanding they remove your number from their data base, and to never call you again. This requires you to provide your name and number. If they violate, take them to small claims.

If you owe and you do not want these calls, take responsibility, and take care of the debt. Get educated about your rights.

Started to get these phone calls. Finally asnwered it this morning, the computer voice said they were looking for Lynn.... I hang up right away because I do not have a Lynn in my household, and I certainly do not know any Lynn.

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Just got a call, I said "Hello", so did the automated voice and then it said "Good bye"
I'm gonna let the kids the calls from this #.

WE CHECKED ALL OUR BILLS THEY ALL ARE PAYED BY OUR BANK WE HAVE NO BILLS
SO THIS IS A SCAM FOR SURE IF I KEEPS UP WE WILL CALL THE FBI ON THIS MATTER

1-800-291-4367 THIS IS A SCAM

If someone would like a call returned at least have the decency to leave a message with information. If this *IS* a collection service, someone at my doctor's office overlooked the note I sent about being currently unable to pay towards a bill, as my unemployed (and now bankrupt) household may soon be homeless.
It's not like I'm sitting here, cackling, lighting cigars with $100 bills while hoping my phone gets disconnected before another bill collector calls to tell me something I already know. Rub it in, you lucky jackasses, my situation keeps a roof over your head.

Tried to call for a tenant of mine, was initially evasive about who they were and what the purpose of their call was. Did answer with their company name and the guy who called said his name was John Hudzinski and could give no further info.

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no message left

I keep getting calls from the same number. I don't owe anything to anyone except my mortgage and utilities. Never received any mail from this company so must be something sketchy. They call a few times a month, sparatic, but never leave messages anymore. Maybe they'll eventually go away. Can never get a live person to get them to quit calling. Even pulled current credit file, nothing on there, so no idea who these people are. And if you are a bill collector stay off these sites, grow up, these people just want to vent. Most people that can pay their bills do pay, others hit hard times. And don't blame Bush, the GOP, etc. The businesses did this to themselves, not the government. The bail outs aren't going to do any good either so in four more years are you going to blame Obama?? Why, is it his fault?? No, it's the dang businesses not managing themselves and my tax dollars aren't the answer, but they sure think so.

Bullshit

They called my cell but didn't leave a message. Shortly after, I got a text from the same number. All it said was "PLEASE CALL".

I get this phone call several times daily. Since I have caller ID and it merely says "Toll Free Call", I don't answer it. I've registered my phone number with donotcall.gov but it doesn't seem to apply to all junk phone calls, so I'm not really sure that it works. This number calls me every day persistantly and has for months now, and you'd think after not answering for as long as I have, that they'd give up. They primarily call me during the workday when I am not home, so they ought to get it through their thick skulls to STOP CALLING ME ALREADY!

Simple solution to this issue. When asked for a telephone number and you really do not want to use your own, use Credit & Management Systems, Inc number 847-735-9700. I have a whole list of numbers I use when I really do not want a call back and Credit & Management Systems, Inc will get the annoying calls. Use this for any service (Internet, free give-a-ways, adult sites, etc. you get the idea) and once this gets in the system it is impossible to get it out. I have had two NEW phone numbers that have belong to other people and I have told these companies that these numbers no longer are for these people but the calls keep coming. So payback’s are a bi*ch.

Constantly calls, refuses to allow you to talk to a human. Have called the 'customer' agent back to tell them the person they're calling doesn't own this number. Gets rather combative when told this, says I'm lying & must be hiding the person not paying their bills. Doesn't like being told that complaints have been made with Do Not Call & Verizon (phone provider).

Asking to call back for a debt on a different number. Called back, and they were looking for a different person. Promised to remove the number.

also, they say their Trans World Systems. they call all the time, male and female, give different names even if same voice. Names given: Mrs. and Mr. Buttler, Mr. Smith Mr. Jones

yeah they call me too, im 13 and they say i owe them 1000's of dollars, i told my parents and called thme and they said they fixed the mistake, they still call!!! i get mad because im on a 700 minute plan with my family and they use them all, put my number on the donotcall list.

They called but I didn't answer it. I recently had my number changed to an unlisted number so it can't be anyone looking for me. I am listed on the "do not call" list so I have no idea what this is about. The name on ID is "Credit mgtsvs".

Not paying for someting is stealing! Poor scumbag got a phone call and you are stealing and hurting the economy. WOnder why businesses are closing and people are losing jobs? Well look in the mirror it is your fault. So just keep running and hiding instead of doing what is right. You theif!

CREDIT MANAGEMENT SERVICE AKA Transworld Systems. Scumbags breaking a lot of fdcpa rules. 866-531-5020

I just received a call from this phone number and the recorded voice said this is Wendy and that we are calling about your debt. Considering I do not owe any body money for past due accounts I just hung up my phone and hope not to receive any more calls from these idiots. I am also on a do not call registry

Just like many other peopele have said, this supposive debt collecting agency is trying to collect debts that don't exist.

They also my be the same company that kept calling regarding the debt of someone who doesn't own my phone number. I dealt with that round of annoying calls, by flipping out after they woke me several times. After already being told the person they seek, isn't at this number.

This current roun d of calls, has been report to DO NOT CALL.

the low life bottom feeders can't get in! Their handelers got bailed out we got screwed

stop wasting your money on buying some "box" to block collectors calls and pay your f-in bills.

I bought Panasonic cordless phones at Costco (came in a pack with 4 black phones, 1 white, $130). Has a nifty Call Block feature that even blocks calls from AT&T (my home provider). My phone company CB services won't block these numbers but my Panasonics will. Add the offending number. After that the phone rings one time when they call, displays Call Blocked and they get a busy signal.
I SO love these phones!!!

Hey, Collector Bang, where did you get that box? And who is the manufacturer? I'm sure a lot of us would like one of those.

To Sick of Debtors, not all of us who get calls from debt collecting companies owe anyone anything. My former bleep of a neighbor (who owes $$ to everyone and their brother) gave MY phone number to everyone she owes money to and now 4 years later I'm STILL getting these calls. And BTW, we're not all racist assholes.

Only a sick lowlife pediphyle thief bastard wouled work as a bill collecter. if you are you deserve any insult screw you and the GOP horse you rode in on.

Get a box like mine. Anyone who calls without caller ID or numbers and area codes of known Bottom Feeders get a standard telephone recording " this number is not in service please check the number and dial again" It rings once and I know it was a bottom feeder. I can let those I want in. I have an unlisted number for use by normal folks not bastards.They get a Govt bailout then tack on horrendous fees and expect us to pat. Screw them and the GOP they rode in on>

To "SICK OF DEBTERS"
First of all... you have the right to your own opinion, as does everyone else. If you want to come and voice that opinion, good for you.. but do yourself and the rest of us a favor...either learn to spell, or atleast use spellcheck lol. WoW your spelling is horrible! Nice language for a debt collector, just as we all thought.

LOOK I AM A BILL-COLLECTOR VERY GOOD ONE MIGHT I SAY I AM SICK AND TIERD OF YOU RACIST CHILDISH ASS HOLES NOW I AM HERE TO VOICE MY OPPINION YOU ALL ACT AS IF WE ARE NOT PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE, MAJORITY OF YOU QUOTE THE THE LAW BUT DON'T KNOW SHIT .I AM TIERED OF WHEN I CALL YOU YOU YELL YOU SCREAM YOU CALL ME NIGGERS LIKE THIS IS NOT 2009 DO YOU ALL FORGET IT IS A NIGGER RUNNING THIS COUNTRY SOMETHING YOU WHITE MOTHERFUCKS COULD NEVER DO RIGHT, NEXT YOU GUYS ARE SO PISSED WELL GUESS WHAT IF YOU WOULD HAVE PAID THE BILL LONG TIME AGO OR TOOK CARE OF YOUR BUSINESS LONG TIME AGO NO ONE WILL CALL YOU AND THEN YOU GUYS ARE QUICK TO GET ON WEBSITES LIKE THESE AND TALK BAD ON THESE COMPANIES WELL GUESS WHAT YOU BROKE ASS- I FELL OFF TRACK BECAUSE I LOST MY JOB ASS- I WAS IN A DIVORCE AND HE/ OR SHE RUINED MY CREDIT ASS WINNING ASS BABBIES MY ALTIMATE FAVORITE YOU CAN'T SQUEEZE BLOOD FROM A TURNIP WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU BITCHES ARE NOT TURNIPS YOU ALL ARE BROKE ASS MOTHERFUCKERS WITH ICE-BOXES FOR HEARTS BY THE WAY YOU ALLWAYS SAY GET A REAL JOB BUT ATLEAST WE ARE IN A INDUSTRY THAT YALL BROKE ASSES KEEP US BOOMING IN

transworld systems inc...keeps call and sending letters to me. they say i owe $2400 to my gas company. and i dont. I've been looking them up and get smixed articles about transworld sysytems inc beeing scammers or not. now i'm just left confused. anyone else know anything about them....thats doesnt work for them of course. I know i'm right, i'm not dumb. and flat out....I'm on a budget for the gas co. for low income households and if i'm late on payments they take me off the budget . this is so difficult

didn't answer

Calls at 6am, 6:30am leaves no message. Credit Management Services. I am soo gonna send letters on these hard workers.

A female called at 8:58 A.M. asking for a person with a variation of my name. She gave the company name as Transworld Systems though the Caller ID display read Tollfree Number. I asked what number she was calling. She gave my phone number. I said she might have the name wrong and asked what she was calling about. She told me she could not disclose the nature of the call. I told her there was no one by the name she was seeking at our number.

lvs mini miranda sts to call mrs cunningham

These sleaze bags call and act very official as if they are the government. They ask for some first name. I have a rule 800 calls are usually from scum of the earth bottom feeders. No self respecting person would work for a bill collector. You are not required by law to speak to these clowns or give them any help in their plans to harrass people who are suffering from the meltdown that their employers and George Bush have created.

unpaid doctor bills

I received a call from them for a vet bill that is clearly not mine. I am waiting on them to send over a copy of the bill. I just moved & they have my new number and name. I've gone to several websites to do a reverse phone search and it still shows the previous person. I've never even been to the state where they say the bill occurred. I've never received anything in the mail. The number has been on my caller id before but they don't leave a message. Is this place a scam?? Please post if you've had any experience like this.

Well here you go - This is who keeps calling you all: Credit & Management Systems, Inc.
49 Sherwood Terrace, Ste 49E
Lake Bluff, IL 60044
Telephone: +1 (847) 735-9700
FAX: +1 (847) 735-9702
Would you like to learn more about CMS?
Fill out our form and we'll be in touch or call 1 (847) 735-9700 for immediate assistance.

Sales:
Telephone: +1 (847) 735-9700
FAX: +1 (847) 735-9702
E-mail: sales@icmsglobal.com

Support:
Telephone: +1 (618) 654-3500
E-mail: support@icmsglobal.com

PR:
Telephone: +1 (847) 735-9700
E-mail: pr@icmsglobal.com

Perhaps we should all start returning harassing calls back to them? Perhaps they will get the idea. They have been asked not to call our business and they won't stop.

these people call and call. never leave a message and i don't answer. still they call and call.

Name of person calling isn't at this number. Debt collector.

Guy called at 8:30AM from this number. Said "Hi. How are you today?" I asked who was calling, and he replied "I just asked how you were doing." So I hung up. This happened 10 minutes ago, and I haven't gotten another call from this number. But i am on the Do Not Call registry, so this should not happen.

They call,,,they call and they call. Please to make them stop. They must be stopped.

So this number is a collection agency. I was thinking, even if I do have some old debt somewhere, my cell phone number is listed in someone else's name, so there is no way you could link my number to my name... unless the agency gets phone number lists from cable/phone/power companies and cross-references for matches, all of those companies have my full name and this cell phone number.... but also, my name is common. It could be anyone's debt.

"Please return our call to 1-800-291-4367" is the message I keep getting

Collection agency looking for Jeff or Gwendolyn. If this was ever their number, it isn't any more. It's been mine for 2 years. I've left messages indicating they should check Phonebook.com and they'll see my name. But they still keep calling.

This is a collection agency and looking for the people who had my phone number 5 1/2 years ago. They are Credit Management Services, 9525 Sweet Valley Drive, Valley View OH 44125. Their office phone is 216-525-3321. I haven't tried calling them yet to give them a piece of my mind. My husband told the caller that those people no longer have this phone number and they haven't called in a week. These collection agencies should Gooogle 5-year-old phone numbers before dialing them (or putting them in their databases)!!!!

Recording asking for a call back to that number regarding a financial matter.

recieved a message from 800-291-4367 asking me to return the call...when I did a lady picked up the phone, told her I was returning a call..she asked for my phone number..I told her I wont give her that and she said she could not help me then. I told her that was fine I'll just wait till they call again and hung up.

This friggin number calls me everyday at 8:11am. I'm on the DO NOT CALL list and have no debts. There is never anyone on the other end of the call and no one answering at the call back number. MAKE IT STOP!!!!

I get repeated calls from this number. I owe no one and if this is a bill collector, they are obviously pursuing someone else. What are the options here? Don't return call, they keep calling. I'm on the DNC list.

Just was an automated call from Credit Management Services saying they want to talk to me about a debt or something. I just got my cell phone so I don't know who it would be or what debt I would have. I haven't been able to reach them at all to tell them to stop calling.

this call is very annoying since it seems as if as soon as it is 8 am the phone is ringing and it is them. If it is so important for them to speak "about a business matter" why isn't there someone on the other end of the phone

They called for me. I told them that this was my place of employment and my employer does not approve of these calls. They removed me from the list for the sixth time.

They keep calling you with an robot, asking you to call back. When you called back, the message was" this is credit management services...." Anybody checked it out what's going on there? Can we sue them?

Calling the number, was answered by an automatic message from:
CREDIT MANAGEMENT SERVICES

When i spoke with a women there she told me that they deal with over 2000 clients and she could not tell me what they wanted until i gave her my phone number (didnt happen).

I then told her i was on the do not call list and she told me it would not apply since they are not solicating or selling anything. I had to drag it out of her that they are a collection agency.

So Beware Folks. They are trying to get money out of you one way or another.

Good Luck.

these calls keep coming to our phone # for another family that used to have our #. They won't quit calling our number.....and won't answer when we call then to have the calls stopped to inform them that they are reaching wrong family.

we are a business and this recording keeps calling and leaving this number which "is not a sales call, but deals with a business matter." We refuse to return the call.

didnt say anything

They are a collection agency. In our case they were collecting unpaid co-pays at the doctor's office. Not a scam, so relax.

Let's consider; in these days of rampant identity theft, who would return a call to a blocked number and give them personal account information? No matter who they say they are, do you know for sure?
This automated crap makes me even more suspicious. Seems like faxes from Nigeria. If you really owed them money they would answer the phone.

got calls from these phone for atleast 3 times, but when you pick it up is just a recording

i get this call daily on my cell phone. i figured it was something fishy. the credit agency must be after the previous owner of my cell number. besed on my brother's experience with bankruptcy, i expect to be getting their calls for a long time to come.

I have received at least 20 calls from CMS. It's a computer call asking me to hold for the next available rep. I will not take calls putting me on hold. Just keep hanging up.

I received this call many times!

This number belongs to: Credit Management Services
9525 Sweet Valley Drive
Valley View, OH. 44125
800-291-4367

This is a Collection Agency.

I received a call from this number, and the individual who placed to call refused to give any information as to what the call was regarding until I gave him my name.

I hung up.

The recording starts with 'This is not a solicitation.' Since I don't know them and don't know their number (it says 'Unknown'), it obviously is an unsolicited call -- making them solicitors in violation of the Do Not Call Registry to which I subscribed.

These guys keep calling and calling with a recorded message to call them back. Not going to happen!

Got a call and message from them just asking to reference my telephone number.

Calling the number, was answered by an automatic message from:
CREDIT MANAGEMENT SERVICES

I just signed up for the donotcall registry so this may not apply. This number has called me every day for about three months.